NFL Pick'em Week 8

[Ryan Pode]

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay
Atlanta at Cincinnati
Baltimore at New Orleans
Houston at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Philadelphia
Seattle at Kansas City 1
San Francisco at Chicago
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego
Indianapolis at Denver
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland
Pittsburgh at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas at Carolina

Monday Night
New England at Minnesota

Open date: Buffalo, Detroit, Miami, Washington

[Ryan Pode]

Yog's picks:

Green Bay
Giants
Chicago
KC
Philly
Tennessee
New Orleans
Cinci
San Diego
Pittsburgh
Jets
Indy
Carolina
New England

[sirdizzy]

my prelim picks

Denver

[Ambrose Braeden]

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay(W)
Atlanta at Cincinnati(W)
Baltimore at New Orleans(W)
Houston at Tennessee(W)
Jacksonville at Philadelphia(W)
Seattle at Kansas City(W)
San Francisco at Chicago(W)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants(W)

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego(W)
Indianapolis(W) at Denver
N.Y. Jets(W) at Cleveland
Pittsburgh(W) at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas(W) at Carolina

Monday Night
New England(W) at Minnesota

[sirdizzy]

see ambrose that's why I am in first and you are in last, you should pick the broncos trust me

[JMK]

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay (w)
Atlanta at Cincinnati (w)
Baltimore at New Orleans (w)
Houston at Tennessee (w)
Jacksonville at Philadelphia (w)
Seattle at Kansas City (w)
San Francisco at Chicago (w)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (w)

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego (w)
Indianapolis at Denver (w)
N.Y. Jets (w) at Cleveland
Pittsburgh (w) at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas at Carolina (w)

Monday Night
New England (w) at Minnesota

This could be ugly again. I really have a hard time making a good case for road teams except for New England and Pittsburgh. The Indy/Denver game is a toss-up, but I'm giving it to Denver because they're very tough at home and Indy is going to lose sooner or later.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Arizona at Green Bay W
Atlanta at Cincinnati W
Baltimore at New Orleans W
W Houston at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Philadelphia W
Seattle at Kansas City W
San Francisco at Chicago W
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants W

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego W
W Indianapolis at Denver
W N.Y. Jets at Cleveland
W Pittsburgh at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas at Carolina W

Monday Night
W New England at Minnesota

And yes Dizzy I am taking Indy. The game is a toss up as was said by Kyle. It could either way. And I also need a game to try to make up on people so that is the other reason why I am taking it.

[Tannis V'larr]

Blargh. The Steelers and I both have a lot of ground to recover after last week.

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay WIN
Atlanta at Cincinnati WIN
Baltimore at New Orleans WIN
Houston at Tennessee WIN
Jacksonville at Philadelphia WIN
Seattle WIN at Kansas City
San Francisco at Chicago WIN
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants WIN

Sunday Late
St. Louis WIN at San Diego
Indianapolis WIN at Denver
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland WIN
Pittsburgh WIN at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas at Carolina WIN

Monday Night
New England at Minnesota WIN

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay (WIN)
Atlanta at Cincinnati (WIN)
Baltimore at New Orleans (WIN)
Houston at Tennessee (WIN)
Jacksonville at Philadelphia (WIN)
Seattle at Kansas City (WIN)
San Francisco at Chicago (WIN) This game isn't fair! Can't we play the Raiders again? :(
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (WIN)

Sunday Late
St. Louis (WIN) at San Diego
Indianapolis (WIN) at Denver
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland (WIN)
Pittsburgh (WIN) at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallasat Carolina (WIN)

Monday Night
New England (WIN) at Minnesota

[sirdizzy]

sorry JMC taking indy will make you no ground up, it will only keep you on even ground as I expect to see almost everyone take indy

but see with me you will be losing ground and I am in first because I will be taking the winner of that game, Denver

you shouldn't be trying to make up ground on the losers but the winners, why fight against the 4th place teams go for the #1 teams like me


wanna now the game that is driving me crazy its the KC game. I was locked in on taking the cheifs but now it looks like Huard will be out too. That means a 3rd string rookie QB will most likely be the chiefs starter thats freaking scary.

[Jedi Master Carr]

sorry JMC taking indy will make you no ground up, it will only keep you on even ground as I expect to see almost everyone take indy

but see with me you will be losing ground and I am in first because I will be taking the winner of that game, Denver

you shouldn't be trying to make up ground on the losers but the winners, why fight against the 4th place teams go for the #1 teams like me


wanna now the game that is driving me crazy its the KC game. I was locked in on taking the cheifs but now it looks like Huard will be out too. That means a 3rd string rookie QB will most likely be the chiefs starter thats freaking scary.


Huard might play it is going to be a game time decision from the sound of it. I would go with the home team. I think the fact Seattle doesn't have Alexander and there defense has looked awful this season, ways in the Chiefs favor.

[JMK]

You know Dizzy, if the Broncos somehow lose this game, and is still remains a distinct possibility, you'll be eating a lot of crow. Right now I'd say the Broncos are 55-45 favorites to win the game. That's not a lot. But of you're right, and they do win, you'll have pretty much the best team in the league.

[sirdizzy]

hey I even got money on the denver game, I am fan enough to put my money where my mouth is so GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Broncos

prelim picks

Green Bay
Cincinnati
New Orleans
Houston
Philadelphia
Seattle
Chicago
N.Y. Giants
San Diego
Denver
N.Y. Jets
Pittsburgh
Carolina
New England

[Blade Bacquin]

Sunday Early
Arizona(w) at Green Bay
Atlanta(w) at Cincinnati
Baltimore at New Orleans(w)
Houston at Tennessee(w)
Jacksonville at Philadelphia(w)
Seattle at Kansas City(w)
San Francisco at Chicago (w)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (w)

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego(w)
Indianapolis at Denver(w)
N.Y. Jets(w) at Cleveland
Pittsburgh(w) at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas(w) at Carolina

Monday Night
New England at Minnesota(w)

[Rutabaga]

Sunday Early

Arizona at Green Bay (W)
Atlanta (W) at Cincinnati
Baltimore at New Orleans (W)
Houston (W) at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Philadelphia (W)
Seattle (W) at Kansas City
San Francisco at Chicago (W) (ditto what Lilaena said :cry)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (W)

Sunday Late

St. Louis at San Diego (W)
Indianapolis (W) at Denver
N.Y. Jets (W) at Cleveland
Pittsburgh (W) at Oakland

Sunday Night

Dallas at Carolina (W)

Monday Night

New England (W) at Minnesota

[sirdizzy]

i am going seattle for the time being but I may change the pick right before game time depending off it Huard plays

[Jedi Master Carr]

Huard says he is going to play. I think he will for various reasons. It is just a mild groin pull, that hurts more than anything else.

[jjwr]

Sunday Early
Arizona(W) at Green Bay
Atlanta at Cincinnati(W)
Baltimore at New Orleans(W)
Houston at Tennessee (W)
Jacksonville at Philadelphia (W)
Seattle at Kansas City(W)
San Francisco at Chicago(W)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (W)

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego (W)
Indianapolis at Denver (W)
N.Y. Jets at Cleveland (W)
Pittsburgh(W) at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas at Carolina (W)

Monday Night
New England(W) at Minnesota

[Jedi Master Carr]

LOL everybody is turning on my Chiefs. Watch Huard now play :p

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Arizona at Green Bay (W)
(W) Atlanta at Cincinnati
Baltimore at New Orleans (W)
(W) Houston at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Philadelphia (W)
Seattle at Kansas City (w)
San Francisco at Chicago (W)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (W)


(W) St. Louis at San Diego
Indianapolis at Denver (W)
(W) N.Y. Jets at Cleveland
(w) Pittsburgh at Oakland


Dallas at Carolina (W)


(W) New England at Minnesota

[Jedieb]

Sunday Early
Green Bay
Cincinnati
New Orleans
Tennessee
Philadelphia
Kansas City
Chicago
N.Y. Giants

Sunday Late
San Diego
Indianapolis
N.Y. Jets
Pittsburgh

Sunday Night
Dallas

Monday Night
Minnesota

I'm basically out of it so I might as well go for a couple of upsets to end the week. Ughh, worst season ever.

[Ryan Pode]

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay Win
Atlanta at Cincinnati Win
Baltimore Win at New Orleans
Houston Win at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Philadelphia Win
Seattle at Kansas City Win
San Francisco at Chicago Win
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants Win

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego Win
Indianapolis Win at Denver
N.Y. Jets Win at Cleveland
Pittsburgh Win at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas at Carolina Win

Monday Night
New England at Minnesota Win

Open date: Buffalo, Detroit, Miami, Washington

[Liam Jinn]

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay (w)
Atlanta at Cincinnati (w)
Baltimore (w) at New Orleans
Houston at Tennessee (w)
Jacksonville (w) at Philadelphia
Seattle (w) at Kansas City
San Francisco at Chicago (w)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (w)

Sunday Late
St. Louis (w) at San Diego
Indianapolis (w) at Denver
N.Y. Jets (w) at Cleveland
Pittsburgh (w) at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas (w) at Carolina

Monday Night
New England (w) at Minnesota

Erm, go Dallas!

[jjwr]

I definitly want the Bronco's to pull it out, that'll even the standings atop the AFC for now. Though for the sake of one of my fantasy teams I need Manning to throw a few TD's in the loss :)

[Figrin D'an]

Sunday Early
Arizona at Green Bay (W)
Atlanta at Cincinnati (W)
Baltimore at New Orleans (W)
Houston (W) at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Philadelphia (W)
Seattle at Kansas City (W)
San Francisco at Chicago (W)
Tampa Bay at N.Y. Giants (W)

Sunday Late
St. Louis at San Diego (W)
Indianapolis at Denver (W)
N.Y. Jets (W) at Cleveland
Pittsburgh (W) at Oakland

Sunday Night
Dallas at Carolina (W)

Monday Night
New England (W) at Minnesota

[sirdizzy]

ok what chicago is doing to the niners is pure wrong, if this trend doesn't stop the game is going to be 100-0, I think they are a little pissed off about that arizona game and the niners are feeling the brunt of their anger

[Tannis V'larr]

Looks like I'm dropping four of the early games today. I should have remembered Hasselbeck was out for the Seahawks; even so, that was a pretty close game, up until that last interception by Seneca Wallace.

Ah well. If the Ravens had to win, it's good for the Steelers that the Bengals lost.

EDIT: Oh, wait, the Hawks are still alive and driving for the tie with 1:14 left! Hooray for bonus coverage!

EDIT 2: Failed on 4th and 15. So, yeah, dropped four. :p

[Ryan Pode]

5-3 behind big wins by KC and Baltimore.

[Tannis V'larr]

The Steelers are sinking to a new low. It's not just that they're down a touchdown to the Raiders, or even that Ben has already added two picks to his season total -- it's that the defense is losing its discipline and has just spotted the Raiders thirty yards on consecutive unsportsmanlike penalties by Larry Foote and Joey Porter. Cowher has said he was going to address the unnecessary penalties. We have yet to see it.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I told you Huard would play :p Although the game was closer than it should have been. KC should have won by 3 TDs.

[Ryan Pode]

Good thing I picked the Chiefs then, yes?

[Jedi Master Carr]

heh you did, I was picking fun at someone else :p

[Ryan Pode]

Now only if people had picked the Ravens...

[Jedi Master Carr]

I missed that one. I was thinking New Orleans would win because they were at home, where they have played great to that point.

[Ryan Pode]

Ravens have been playing below themselves. They needed to remind everyone how sick their defense is and how efficient the offense is.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Great game in Denver. If Pittsburgh can't beat Oakland, there season is done. The Raiders are horrible, I am not sure how they could lose to them.

[Ryan Pode]

By being very overrated. I get the Steelers and Oakland game, I wish I got Indy and Denver, but this one could be nice if the Steelers lose.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Got the Denver game here, thank god. That Pit-Oak looks ugly. When the leading passer has 54 through 3 and half quarters that is bad.

[Ryan Pode]

"Can you believe it?! The third interception thrown by Roethlisberger!"

Yeah. I can when it's his 10th in 6 games.

[Jedi Master Carr]

He is too banged up. They shouldn't have played him in this game. Of course as bad as Oakland is they could still win.

[Ryan Pode]

Maybe. Roethlisberger was never that great. But the Steelers running game is completely non-existant thus he has to throw and Roethlisberger won't do well if he has to throw more than 30 times a game.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Man the Colts can't tackle. I can't see them getting to the SB with that rushing defense.

[Ryan Pode]

Neither can I. But I can see them beating the Broncos as Manning & Co. seemed to be able to do whatever they want on the Broncos.

[Ryan Pode]

#4 goes for a TD. :D

[Jedi Master Carr]

That is horrible. You see I hate Oakland so I don't like this at all. I want them to finish 1-15.

[Ryan Pode]

Well, I hate the Steelers, probably more than you hate the Raiders. So a Steeler loss is much better than a Raider one.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well, I hate the Steelers, probably more than you hate the Raiders. So a Steeler loss is much better than a Raider one.

I am not sure about that. Chiefs fan hate the Raiders with a passion. Well I guess there is one bright of shinning lining, they keep themselves from getting Brady Quinn.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Denver can't stop Manning either. It should be an exciting 3.5 minutes. I knew this game was a coin flip.

[Ryan Pode]

I hate the Steelers more. I wouldn't hesitate to kill one. Honest to god.

[Jedi Master Carr]

They should just let Denver score. So they can get the ball last.

[Ryan Pode]

Looks like they're trying to. 1-10-DEN 20 (3:35) M.Bell right guard pushed ob at IND 32 for 48 yards (A.Bethea).

[Jedi Master Carr]

Game is tied. Now it is time for Manning to get mr automatic in range.

[Ryan Pode]

And the Raiders just remembered they are the Raiders. Steelers have it on the Oakland 43ish.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I wouldn't be shocked if the Raiders blow it. The Colts are at midfield with 1 minute left.

[Jedieb]

The Colts have just gotten another first down and they're at midfield. Two more first downs or one big play and they're in FG range. Two obvious observations;

1. Denver's defense is good, but they obviously never faced an offense like the Colts this year. 31 points at home and possibly more is much more than I expected them to give up.

2. My sister, mother, and mother-in-law could do a better job of run defense than the Colts. Holy crap do they miss C. Simon. They can't win a SB unless they fix this.

Well, they've driven down to FG range and with Vandershank nowhere in sight, this game is as good as over.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Mr Auto comes through.

[Jedieb]

3rd and goal for the Steelers with 2 minutes to go......... False start. The Steelers have no business being in this game. Big Ben looks like he's still got some cobwebs. Man, he's having a Kyle Boller type of game. :evil

[Ryan Pode]

While Manning didn't blow out the Broncos. He did complete 32 of 39 (82%!) for 345 yards and 3 TDs for a passer rating of 129.4. With no sacks.

In Oakland, it looks over. Knock on wood. Boller has never thrown 4 Picks.

[Jedieb]

Holy cow, it's 4th and goal from the 4 after the Steelers had first and goal from the one. Again, they shouldn't even be in this game. Man the Raiders blow chunks.

[Ryan Pode]

It's all but over.

[Jedieb]

Incomplete, game over unless Oakland finds a way to blow it. Batch should have started this game. Only a concussed QB or a healthy Boller could be this inept against the Raiders defense.

Manning had his way with the Broncos in the second half. Those are ridiculous numbers against a defense that had only given up 2 TD's this season. Holy crap, his fantasy numbers are going to be sick today.

[Ryan Pode]

So much hate. Boller's QB rating this season is 97. 3 TDs, 1 Pick. Quit drinkin' yo' Haterade.

[Jedieb]

Only Ravenscolored Glasses could see those numbers as something to be proud. I rag on Boller because he's a joke of a QB and everyone outside of Baltimore knows it. Actually, they know it in Baltimore as well because he's riding pine, isn't he? Here come the Steelers again. They might still be able to force OT here. 21 seconds and they at the Raiders 45. Wow, Sapp has his first big play in Oakland after 3 seasons in football purgatory. Here comes the Hail Mary. Holy crap, he caught it at the 5. The Raiders did everything they could to blow this game.

[sirdizzy]

damn that game made me sick, we didn't stop them once in the 2nd half, one defensive hold and we would have won the game

I mean our offense finally got out of its funk with 31 points but are defense let the colts score 3tds and 3 field goals, thats as much as we have given up in 4 games

[Ryan Pode]

I mean our offense finally got out of its funk with 31 points but are defense let the colts score 3tds and 3 field goals, thats as much as we have given up in 4 games

But the Colts defense is absolutely terrible. To keep things in perspective.

[Jedieb]

562 CMP 1012 ATT5844 YDS 55.5% Completion % 34TDs 33INTs 70.0 Rating

451 CMP 706 ATT 6051 YDS 63.9% Completion % 39 TDs 27 INTs 93.5 Rating

Anybody want to attach names to those career numbers? :lol

It wasn't just Pittsburgh that laid an egg today. What the hell was up with the Eagles? The Jags obviously flipped a coin and had it land on "Play" today, but that's no excuse for the game they played today. They got dominated at home. At least last week they could say they got beat by a freak FG, but today they got handled.

[Ambrose Braeden]

does anyone know what channel the dallas game is on direct tv...i cant seem to find it.?

[Ryan Pode]

NBC?

Jeez. I couldn't post NBC because it was too short. LAME. And the career #'s. Top is Bollers, bottom is Roethlisberger. And is the Roethlisberger numbers from after today?

[sirdizzy]

so are the raiders and browns defenses yet we only managed 17 and 13 points against those 2 teams

[Ryan Pode]

The Raider's defense is vastly underrated. They usually have to play with many shortened fields due to their inept offense and are on the field for too much time.

[Jedieb]

does anyone know what channel the dallas game is on direct tv...i cant seem to find it.?

I'll be loving the HD broadcast out of NYC tonight.

In back to back weeks I've had to go up against LT and Larry Johnson in fantasy. Holy crap, the FF gods are against me.



Jeez. I couldn't post NBC because it was too short. LAME. And the career #'s. Top is Bollers, bottom is Roethlisberger. And is the Roethlisberger numbers from after today?

If ESPN updated them they are. But we know the Boller numbers are static because nothing changes from the bench.

[Ryan Pode]

If ESPN updated them they are. But we know the Boller numbers are static because nothing changes from the bench.

If Boller was in Pittsburgh he'd have had the same numbers the past couple of years. Boller didn't have anyone to throw to until last year, when he got hurt/offensive line got hurt.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Incomplete, game over unless Oakland finds a way to blow it. Batch should have started this game. Only a concussed QB or a healthy Boller could be this inept against the Raiders defense.

Manning had his way with the Broncos in the second half. Those are ridiculous numbers against a defense that had only given up 2 TD's this season. Holy crap, his fantasy numbers are going to be sick today.

Heh and I have him. I won last weeks game because of Manning. Too bad I started off so poorly.

[Jedieb]

so are the raiders and browns defenses yet we only managed 17 and 13 points against those 2 teams

Even against a horrible Colts run D, that was the best offensive game Denver's had all season. Plummer was more than solid and he was downright great when they rolled him out. The Broncos can build on this, but they should have won this game, especially at home. They probably gave away HF to the Colts today.

[Ryan Pode]

Even against a horrible Colts run D, that was the best offensive game Denver's had all season. Plummer was more than solid and he was downright great when they rolled him out. The Broncos can build on this, but they should have won this game, especially at home. They probably gave away HF to the Colts today.

I didn't get the game on tv, so I am going by the box scores.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Even against a horrible Colts run D, that was the best offensive game Denver's had all season. Plummer was more than solid and he was downright great when they rolled him out. The Broncos can build on this, but they should have won this game, especially at home. They probably gave away HF to the Colts today.

Have to worry about the Patriots too. Although they are now tied in their division and the Chiefs are only one game back. I think that division will come down to the wire. Denver still has to play SD twice and the Chiefs in Arrowhead.

[Jedieb]

Plummer had a great first half. The only reason his second numbers were down was because Denver kept running the ball, even in passing situations, and getting first downs. What got the Colts back in that game was the defense they played early in the 3rd quarter. They got a 3 and out to start the second half, then stopped Denver again. The offense scored 2 TD's around those two series and then the game became a track meet. Unlike some of the other great games this season, this one was mostly great offense. (Aside from Indy's pee wee football run D) It wasn't a mistake filled turnover fest like last week's Atlanta/Steelers game.

The Giants have their division by the testicles right now. Dallas has to win tonight to keep pace.

[Jedieb]

Have to worry about the Patriots too. Although they are now tied in their division and the Chiefs are only one game back. I think that division will come down to the wire. Denver still has to play SD twice and the Chiefs in Arrowhead.

That's another reason why today's loss was a big kick in the nutts for Denver. The SD games should be pretty interesting. Both defenses are going to slug it out. You figure each team will probably win at home. KC is going to be fun to watch down the stretch. Unlike the Dolphins they at least have a pulse.

[Liam Jinn]

Don't you worry about Dallas, we have a moving target for a QB now

[Rutabaga]

That is horrible. You see I hate Oakland so I don't like this at all. I want them to finish 1-15.

I hate the Raiders with a passion as well, so seeing that game was almost painful for me. Hell has truly frozen over :x. At least the Chargers decked the Lambs.

Roethlisberger had no business coming back a week after suffering a concussion. Hell, he had no business coming back as quickly as he did after the motorcycle accident and the appy. He should have taken more time to heal. I'm no huge Steelers fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the chances that they might have a better record at the point if Roethlisberger had taken his time coming back are realistic.

[Ryan Pode]

I hate the Raiders with a passion as well, so seeing that game was almost painful for me. Hell has truly frozen over :x. At least the Chargers decked the Lambs.

Roethlisberger had no business coming back a week after suffering a concussion. Hell, he had no business coming back as quickly as he did after the motorcycle accident and the appy. He should have taken more time to heal. I'm no huge Steelers fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the chances that they might have a better record at the point if Roethlisberger had taken his time coming back are realistic.

McNair came back after a concussion and had his best game of the season yet, against a 5-1 team on the road.

[Jedi Master Carr]

That's another reason why today's loss was a big kick in the nutts for Denver. The SD games should be pretty interesting. Both defenses are going to slug it out. You figure each team will probably win at home. KC is going to be fun to watch down the stretch. Unlike the Dolphins they at least have a pulse.

Plus they should be getting Green back maybe for the Miami game. That could be a huge difference for them. I think they can win 10-11 games right now. There last 8 games are pretty easy. They get
at Miami
Oakland
Denver
at Cleveland
Baltimore
at San Diego
Oakland
Jacksonville
I was hoping to be 5-4 after the Miami game and they are in good shape for that, IMO. I think they can 5-2 with that schedule and maybe make the playoffs.

[Ryan Pode]

Ride Huard as long as possible. He's been fairly good. Keep him in.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think they will keep in there until Green is 100%. Some Chiefs fans think this is Elvis vs Gannon again. Although I don't think Huard is as good as Gannon and Green is a lot better than Elvis ever was.

[Jedieb]

With their losses on the offensive line and a new coach I think everyone chalked this year up as a rebuilding one for the Chiefs. But with that schedule they can make a run for a playoff spot.

The Me-Receiver showdown tonight between Me-Shauwn and Owens. Uggh, please let Smith make them both look like also rans.

[Ryan Pode]

With their losses on the offensive line and a new coach I think everyone chalked this year up as a rebuilding one for the Chiefs. But with that schedule they can make a run for a playoff spot.

The Me-Receiver showdown tonight between Me-Shauwn and Owens. Uggh, please let Smith make them both look like also rans.

MeShawn is a lot more humble in old age. He is playing for rings now.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think it is going to be a long night for Romo. The Panthers defense is great at rushing the passer.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Has anybody had a good week? I am 6-6. Those upsets by Oakland, Cleveland, and Jacksonville killed me. And I guessed wrong with Atlanta-Cincinnati and New Orleans-Baltimore.

[Ryan Pode]

I know I'm 7-5. So is Jinn.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I know I'm 7-5. So is Jinn.
Because of Baltimore :p If the favorites win the next two games I should be 8-6. Well I caught two games on Dizzy heh.

[sirdizzy]

no i have had a crappy week and am 4-8


at least I didn't lose the $30 on the denver game because the other guy never got his half of the bet in

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well you were lucky there. He is probably kicking himself now.

[Liam Jinn]

Damn Vandercrap, that guy just adds on to crappy choices by the cowboys. But Dallas will still win, so I'll finish the week at 9-5 :D

[Jedi Master Carr]

Dallas in trouble now 14-0 after that iffy INT.

[Liam Jinn]

Bah! Dallas is used to it, we'll still come back!

[Liam Jinn]

Yeah, I was right :)

[JMK]

What a week. So many weird things continue happening. So many upsets...what the hell?

The one thing that remains constant is that there is no defense able to contain Peyton Manning. The way he picked apart the vaunted Broncos D using basically only Reggie Wayne was as impressive for the Colts as it was embarassing for the Broncos.
Was there any doubt that even when Elam tied the game at 31 that Manning would get them close enough for Mr. Clutch to kick a game winner? It's all you can do with the Colts. Just hope that they beat themselves. Unless it's the playoffs, then it's a different story, because they inevitably do beat themselves.

And how about the Bears? 41-0 in the first half? Either the Niners are complete sad sacks or the Bears are going to romp to the Superbowl. They look awesome.

[Jedi Master Carr]

The niners are terrible. I think the Cardinals are worse but the Niners aren't that good either. That is why Seattle will win that division but probably only will win 10 games. The Rams suck, there defense is worse than Seattle. As for the Carolina-Dallas game. Carolina played terrible. All those dropped passes that is what cost them the game. You can't make that many mistakes against any team.

[Jedieb]

I had a decent week for a change and I can get to 9 wins if the Vikings can pull off the upset tonight. Don't look now, but it the Patriots win tonight they'll be hosting the Colts next week for the best record in the conference. Third time in 4 years the Colts have to go to NE during the regular season.

[JMK]

The NFL just loves to reproduce the Manning vs Brady thing, especially in NE where Manning has so much trouble.

[Jedi Master Carr]

That game should be huge next week, especially if the Pats win tonight.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Heck of a first half by Brady. If they win this game that makes the Manning-Brady showdown even more fun to watch.

[Jedi Master Carr]

The Pats are dominating the Vikings. And Brady is having an unbelievable game over 350 yards and 4 TDs. That game next week is going to be a heck of a game.

[Rutabaga]

I have one comment not about the game itself, but about the pregame stuff. It's always kind of fun to see which celebrity will pick up the helmet and announce, "I'm ready for some football." Hey, even Samuel L. Jackson did it, last week, wasn't it?

But c'mon, people...Paris Hilton?!?!?!?. Make it stop, make it stop! :cry

[JMK]

What a good old fashioned beat down the Pats laid on the Vikings. Brady probably had the easiest, most hassle-free game of his career. I'm always so impressed by the competence and execution of the Pats. They always do the fundamental things properly. Run blocking. Pass protection. Catching balls that are on the money. No turnovers.

Right now the AFC looks like this to me:

1- Indy
2- New England
3- Denver
4- Ravens
5- Who cares about the rest

I'll be shocked if one of those 4 teams (throw the Bears in there too) don't win the Superbowl. Though it's still early...any team can get hot towards the end, and cruise. But I just can't see any team besting the listed teams here.

[jjwr]

Great win by the Pats, Brady was really on last night. Next Sunday should be a great game! Up till last night the Pats passing attack had been pretty mediocre but they gave teams something else to think about, they do have some weapons and now Brady is getting comfortable with them.

Bears are a legit Super Bowl contender, their upcoming games against the Giants & Pats will show how legit they truly are.

[Jedieb]

There are times when the Pats coaching staff makes their opponents look like they're being coached by drunken Pee Wee football coaches. You can't run against the Vikings? So what, just throw the ball on almost every play during the first half. How many teams would have just kept pounding the ball into the line for 2 yards and a cloud of dust? No coaching staff gets more out of their personnel than the Patriots. Lord how I hate this team. :shootin

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Third times a charm?


Man, this week was horrid for me in the pick'ems. :(

[Jedieb]

A tough week for last week's leaders brings them back to the pack. There's a three way tie for first now and don't look now but Satan has returned. :cry

Figrin Dan 6-8 (75--39)
Jinn Fizz 7-7 (75-39)
Master Yoghurt 8-6 (75-39)

sirdizzy 5-9 (74-40)

jjwr 7-7 (73-41)

JMK 7-7 (72-42)
Blade Ice 8-6 (72-42)

Tannis V'larr 6-8 (71-43)
Liam Jinn 9-5 (71-43)

Jedi Master Carr 7-7 (70-44)
Ryan Pode 7-7 (70-44)

Nathanial K'cansce 6-8 (69-45)
Lilaena De'Ville 8-6 (69-45)

Jedieb 8-6 (68-46)

Ambrose 9-5 (67-47)

As always, check your results and let me know if there's a mistake.

[JMK]

It's tighter this year than in most years - only 8 wins separate the first-last place teams.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Take that Jedieb! ;)

I'm out of second to last place! :crack

[jjwr]

Everyone is still in this, all it will take is one good week for some of the lower ranked teams to be right there.

As for the Pats, to me this game showed they still have the best coaching staff in the league, like Jedieb said most coaches would just keep trying to pound the ball and get nowhere doing it, especially with some great runners like Maroney & Dillon but Belechick will do what it takes to win regardless how odd the strategy seems.