NFL Pick'em Week 5

[Jedieb]

Get your picks in before game time.

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI
CLE @ CAR
DET @ MINN
MIA @ NE
STL @ GB
TB @ NO
TENN @ INDY
WASH @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late
KC @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX
OAK @ SF
DAL @ PHI

Sunday Night
PITT @ SD

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN

[Jedieb]

@ CHI
@ CAR
@ MINN
@ NE
STL
@ NO
@ INDY
WASH
KC
@ JAX
OAK
DAL
SD
@ DEN

I'm waiting till Sunday on the Giants, Eagles, and Chargers games. Those are some of the biggest match ups of the week and I'm waiting to see if any injuries or accidental overdoses pop up in the next few days.

EDIT: 3 minutes to game time and I'm going with Washington, Dallas, and SD.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI W
CLE @ CAR W
DET @ MINN W
MIA @ NE W
STL @ GB W
TB @ NO W
TENN @ INDY W
W WASH @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late
W KC @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX W
OAK @ SF W
DAL @ PHI W

Sunday Night
W PITT @ SD

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN W

[Jedi Master Carr]

Jedieb how can you pick Oakland? With that Walters at QB I think Clemson could stomp them.

[Liam Jinn]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI (w)
CLE @ CAR (w)
DET @ MINN (w)
MIA @ NE (w)
STL @ GB (w)
TB (w) @ NO
TENN @ INDY (w)
WASH (w) @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late
KC (w) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX (w)
OAK @ SF (w)
DAL (w) @ PHI

Sunday Night
PITT (w) @ SD

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN (w)

[sirdizzy]

wow carr your only taking 2 road teams

[JMK]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI (w)
CLE @ CAR (w)
DET @ MINN (w)
MIA @ NE (w)
STL (w) @ GB
TB @ NO (w)
TENN @ INDY (w)
WASH @ GIANTS (w)

Sunday, Late
KC (w) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX (w)
OAK @ SF (w)
DAL @ PHI (w)

Sunday Night
PITT @ SD (w)

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN (w)

I may change a couple of these because I can't see ANY road teams winning this week, though some are bound to.

[Ambrose Braeden]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI(W)
CLE @ CAR(W)
DET @ MINN(W)
MIA @ NE(W)
STL @ GB(W)
TB @ NO(W)
TENN @ INDY(W)
WASH @ GIANTS(W)

Sunday, Late
KC(W) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX(W)
OAK(W) @ SF
DAL(W) @ PHI

Sunday Night
PITT(W) @ SD

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN(W)

[sirdizzy]

I am also going to wait on 2 games and pick em later, the 2 I am arguing over


CHICAGO
CAROLINA
MINNISOTTA
NEW ENGLAND
ST. LOUIS
NEW ORLEANS
INDY
GIANTS
KANSAS CITY
JACKSONVILLE
SAN FRANSISCO
DALLAS
DENVER

[Jedi Master Carr]

I could also change mine, the Pitsburgh-SD, DAL-Phi and Wash-Giants games are tough to predict.

[Blade Bacquin]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI(w)
CLE @ CAR(w)
DET @ MINN(w)
MIA @ NE(w)
STL(w) @ GB
TB @ NO(w)
TENN @ INDY(w)
WASH(w) @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late
KC(w) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX(w)
OAK @ SF(w)
DAL @ PHI(w)

Sunday Night
PITT @ SD(w)

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN(w)

[JMK]

It's amazing that the Bengals are able to win at all, what with all the distractions & arrests surrounding the team:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6036512?FSO1&ATT=HMA


When commissioner Roger Goodell visited Cincinnati last month, he reminded the players of their responsibility to stay out of trouble. Less than a week later, linebacker Odell Thurman - already suspended four games for violating the league's substance abuse policy - was arrested on a drunken driving charge

Gotta love the fact that some of these guys have absolultey NO respect for authority. Especially on a charge like drunk driving.

[Jedi Master Carr]

If it gets worse for them I think the Bengals could crash and burn.

[Tannis V'larr]

Holy good grief. Makes me wish all the more the Steelers had made just one fewer critical mistake and beaten the Bengals...

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI WIN
CLE @ CAR WIN
DET @ MIN WIN
MIA @ NE WIN
STL WIN @ GB
TB @ NO WIN
TEN @ INDY WIN
WAS WIN @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late
KC WIN @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX WIN
OAK @ SF WIN
DAL @ PHI WIN

Sunday Night
PIT WIN @ SD

Monday Night
BAL @ DEN WIN

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I almost forgot to do my picks. >_<

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI (WIN)
CLE @ CAR (WIN)
DET @ MINN (WIN)
MIA @ NE (WIN)
STL @ GB (WIN)
TB @ NO (WIN)
TENN @ INDY (WIN)
WASH @ GIANTS (WIN)

Sunday, Late
KC (WIN) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX (WIN)
OAK @ SF (WIN)
DAL (WIN) @ PHI

Sunday Night
PITT (WIN) @ SD

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN (WIN)

[Figrin D'an]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI (W)
CLE @ CAR (W)
DET (W) @ MINN
MIA @ NE (W)
STL (W) @ GB
TB @ NO (W)
TENN @ INDY (W)
WASH @ GIANTS (W)

Sunday, Late
KC (W) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX (W)
OAK @ SF (W)
DAL @ PHI (W)

Sunday Night
PITT @ SD (W)

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN (W)

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Buf @ Chi (w)
Cle @ Car (w)
Det @ Minn (w)
Mia @ Ne (w)
(w) Stl @ Gb
Tb @ No (w)
Tenn @ Indy (w)
(w) Wash @ Giants


(w) Kc @ Arz
Jets @ Jax (w)
Oak @ Sf (w)
Dal @ Phi (w)


Pitt @ Sd (w)


(w) Balt @ Den

[Rutabaga]

Sunday, Early

BUF @ CHI (W)
CLE @ CAR (W)
DET @ MINN (W)
MIA @ NE (W)
STL (W) @ GB
TB @ NO (W)
TENN @ INDY (W)
WASH (W) @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late

KC (W) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX (W)
OAK @ SF (W) :rollin
DAL @ PHI (W)

Sunday Night

PITT @ SD (W)

Monday Night

BALT @ DEN (W)

[jjwr]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI(W)
CLE @ CAR(W)
DET @ MINN(W)
MIA @ NE(W)
STL(W) @ GB
TB @ NO(W)
TENN @ INDY(W)
WASH(W) @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late
KC @ ARZ(W)
JETS @ JAX(W)
OAK @ SF(W)
DAL(W) @ PHI

Sunday Night
PITT @ SD(W)

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN(W)

[Jedi Master Carr]

jjwr, must know something the rest of don't know about Arizona :p I know I am biased but I wouldn't pick Arizona right now against any team unless it was the Raiders. There offensive line is horrible. They can't block for anything and the defense has been horrendous too so far this year. I think Leinhart is going to have a horrible game Sunday, but I am not sure if it is because of the Chiefs or the horrible Cardinal offensive line.

[sirdizzy]

no offensive line, a rookie QB, this game is going to be an ugly whooping of the cardinals

[Jedi Master Carr]

no offensive line, a rookie QB, this game is going to be an ugly whooping of the cardinals

I agree, this is why I didn't think it didn't matter that they signed James. The Cardinals would have been better off signing Hutchinson from Seattle.

[Ryan Pode]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI
CLE @ CAR
DET @ MINN
MIA @ NE
STL @ GB
TB @ NO
TENN @ INDY
WASH @ GIANTS

Sunday, Late
KC @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX
OAK @ SF
DAL @ PHI

Sunday Night
PITT @ SD

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN

On fall break so MIA-ish.

[jjwr]

Should be a great slate of games! I'm gonna be down in Foxoboro with a few freinds and my newphews watching the Pats beat up on the Dolphins, it means I'll miss the TO freak show but it'll be worth it!! :)

[Yog]

Sunday, Early
BUF @ CHI (W)
CLE @ CAR (W)
DET @ MINN (W)
MIA @ NE (W)
STL (W) @ GB
TB @ NO (W)
TENN @ INDY (W)
WASH @ GIANTS (W)

Sunday, Late
KC (W) @ ARZ
JETS @ JAX (W)
OAK @ SF (W)
DAL @ PHI (W)

Sunday Night
PITT @ SD (W)

Monday Night
BALT @ DEN (W)

Ugh.. can't see a lot of away wins happening here

[Tannis V'larr]

About the TO show... My brother tells me that ESPN.com just ran a poll asking its readers' perception of the TO homecoming story. Nearly two thirds of the respondents called it primarily a media creation.

Makes me wonder whether they'll include that option next time they run a poll like that. :)

[Jedieb]

Jedieb how can you pick Oakland? With that Walters at QB I think Clemson could stomp them.

No doubt that the Raiders are pathetic, but they're bound to have some support in SF. Both these teams suck, but I think the Raiders may just be able to eke out a win. It's a stretch, but hey, I'm behind.

[Yog]

.. and the games are staaaarted! Good luck all!

[Yog]

Wow, the Bears are absolute monsters. Buffalo does not stand a chance. And look at Grossman. He could be a top 5 QB this year if he keeps up like this. This years Drew Brees. Who would have thought that?

Edit: Interesting fact, Bears outscored opponents 143-29 so far this season.

Edit2: Entertaining fact, Losman has a 17.8 passer rating so far in this game, and he has been sacked +2 times for 12 game starts in a row.

[Yog]

:: crickets chirping ::

[Tannis V'larr]

Sorry, got nothing. We had the Browns and Panthers.

Great bit of chatter from the CBS pregame show:

"The 1-3 49ers face the 0-4 Raiders in a Bay Area battle. Who loses?"
"We do."

Now watching PHI and DAL. Looks like TO stands for turnovers so far.

[Ambrose Braeden]

HELL YA BABY...Dallas is coming back and in the lead...

[sirdizzy]

sweet jehovist witness, i went 8-0 in early games, that feels good

then again I didn't think this week was too hard to pick, there was about 2-3 swing games and the rest were pick the home team

[Yog]

Exciting game, Cowboys-Philly :)

[Ambrose Braeden]

Exciting game, Cowboys-Philly :)

oh heck ya

[Liam Jinn]

And Bledsoe scrambles for a TD!!

[sirdizzy]

dear god in heaven, the human totem pole has a rushing TD, the appoclypse will soon be on us

and I have to say today was the first time I have been really impressed with Reggie Bush. That was one of the biggest punt return TDs I have ever seen to win a game.

[Tannis V'larr]

Here I was thinking I was 8-0, too, until I checked and saw that I picked the Skins, not the Giants. >_< Ah well, I'll settle for 13-1...

PHI and DAL is a great game so far, and a good thing, given that it's practically a national game (http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/05-FOX-L.gif). Owens is still without a catch, yet the Cowboys are showing they can be effective without him.

WOAH! Drew Bledsoe goes Steve Young on us. Never would have expected him to go headfirst into the endzone on a bootleg scramble like that.

Meanwhile, Matt Leinert is putting in a fairly impressive premiere performance: 8/13 for 102 yards and 2 TDs after two quarters. The Jets are getting shellacked by the Jaguars. And the Raiders jump ahead of the 49ers thanks to Randy Moss's 100th career TD reception.

[Yog]

dear god in heaven, the human totem pole has a rushing TD, the appoclypse will soon be on us

This is the end of the world as we know it!

What I am really waiting for though, is for TO to show up.. of course, Eagles are doing everything they can to stop him from doing anything.

[Yog]

Holy crap! McNabb! 87 yards!

Bledsoe to take some lessons on how to throw the ball.



Edit: Crazy exciting out there! Chiefs-Cardinals 20-20 Cowboys-Eagles 24-24. And Jaguars just shut out the Jets 41-0!

[Jedi Master Carr]

Man Mcnabb is incredible. That was a heck of a pass. Looks like the Chiefs are going to take the lead after being down most of the game.

[sirdizzy]

The bears have been a monster but I am not just ready to write 16-0 besides the bears name yet. It has been 5 games, 5 very impressive games but there is a long way still to go.

In 1998 the Denver Broncos, defending superbowl champions and with a team that was stock piled with hall of famers, Shannon Sharpe, John Elway, Rod Smith, and Tom Nalen (these 4 guys will all be in the HOF) and a bunch of probowlers (Davis would have been HOF if he hadn't got injured) whomped through their first 12 opponents. Their first scare came against KC in week 14 a game they still won 35-31, they scored 401 points in their first 12 games, thats 33.41 points a game. Their lowest victory was by 5 points and their average victory was by 16.25 points. I mean they were the scariest thing in football and then they dropped an unfathonable game aginst the Giants 16-20, the only time all season and all post season for that matter where they did not have at least 21 points which would have been enough to win the game. Cmon in 18 of 19 games they put up that 21 points.
In 10 regular season games and 2 playoff games they put up 30. In 3 regular season games they put up 40, they could have had 40 in a playoff game too but with the score 38-3 and first and goal on the dolphins 5 with under 3 minutes to play they knelt down 3 times to end the game.

This was the most impressive team in the last 15 years or so (the 1989 niners were scary as well as some of those dallas teams in the 90's) and they couldn't do it.

Its hard to keep up that intesity for 16 games, not to have one slip, not to do something you did in all 18 of your games.

Then comes the questions of sitting once you have home field. Denver dropped the following game to Miami as well because once the record was gone they sat.

[Yog]

The Chiefs made it!

Bledsoe throws the ball like he is drunk or something.

If Philly wins this game, Im going to be 12-0 before the last two games.. :eek

[sirdizzy]

man I just noticed I didn't pick the SD/Pitts game tonight, so heres my pick way before game time


San Diego

[Jedi Master Carr]

I was glad to see the Chiefs pull that one out. I have to give Leinhart a lot of credit I thought he was going to have a horrible game. Although he played below average in the second half, including the INT that ended up tieing the game up. As for the Eagle game, Philly has just out played the Cowboys in the second half.

[sirdizzy]

i am 11-0 and I got dallas, wow what a week can the boys win me a game to stay perfect and make yoggy lose a game.

Glad I caught that SD error man it would suck to lose a game just because I missed the pick

[Jedi Master Carr]

4-18, Cowboys are done.

[Jedi Master Carr]

What a dumb pentaly.

[Jedi Master Carr]

What a way to end the game, 102 INT return.

[sirdizzy]

damn it, oh well 11-1

[Yog]

Hilarious ending to that game :lol

[Ambrose Braeden]

crap...that sucks

[Jedi Master Carr]

Hilarious ending to that game :lol

I know, from 2 straight sacks, then 4 and forever. Then a dumb pentality to that huge INT.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Pittsburgh is playing terrible in the second half. They look nothing like the team who won the SB last year.

[Ryan Pode]

Karma. Roethlisberger is finally being exposed as the so-so QB he is.

OR the secret to his sucess was his appendix.

[jjwr]

This was the most impressive team in the last 15 years or so (the 1989 niners were scary as well as some of those dallas teams in the 90's) and they couldn't do it.

03/04 Pats - 28-4. If Belechick can't keep a teams head in it for 16 straight games and prepare them to win them all than no one can. In '04 they lost to the Steelers(who they thrashed in the playoffs) and to the 1-12 Dolphins. They were easily the better overall team just not on those days. Bad days happen which is what makes it so hard.

[Tannis V'larr]

Argh, I'm really mad at the Steelers. I barely got to see any of the game, but how in the heck do you lay down and blow a 10-point lead if you're THE STEELERS? The stats from the first twenty-five minutes were downright dominant -- and then the wheels just came off. Giving up an 80-yard drive for a touchdown just before the half is simply inexcusable.

There goes my optimism for this year. The Steelers running game hasn't recovered from losing the Bus. The defense is getting winded too early in the game. The special teams are giving up too many long returns (releasing Chidi Iwuoma is looking real bright now). I can't see any particular reason for them to be so sloppy. Yes, they've lost a few players, but the core of the team is still largely intact -- the O- and D-lines, the linebacking corps. Last season, when one squad faltered, the other squads always stepped it up and took off the pressure. That's just not happening this season.

Yes, they've shown they can bounce back from a three-game skid... but it's hard to maintain hope when they've shown so little so far this year. :(

[Jedi Master Carr]

Karma. Roethlisberger is finally being exposed as the so-so QB he is.

OR the secret to his sucess was his appendix.
I think he rushed himeself back too quick, plus I think it is the rest of the team. The defense fell apart in the second half. They played great up to the last drive by SD.

[Rutabaga]

Karma. Roethlisberger is finally being exposed as the so-so QB he is.

OR the secret to his sucess was his appendix.

:lol

I'm too lazy to go back and check, but I think I'm 11-1 for today as well, blowing only the Redskins-Giants game.

[Ryan Pode]

The Steelers defense is overrated. Joey Porter the most fear linebacker in the NFL? And T.O. had an impact in todays game.

[jjwr]

The Steelers are overrated in general, they got hot at the right time last year and got quite a few generous calls go their way to win it. This year they lost some players and aren't getting the breaks and they are losing. Big Ben is good isn't good enough to carry the team every week, he was protected by a great line, great D and a power running game. Take those away and he's still a good QB just not as good as most thought.

[Ryan Pode]

Something about that 41.7 QB rating and all the dumb things he does just doesn't inspire me to praise him in the least.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I don't think Pittsburgh will make the playoffs at this point. Heck they better watch out they could be 1-4 after next week. They face a tough KC team and if Ben plays poorly it will keep the Chiefs in the game.

[JMK]

Holy crap! I'm 13-0 right now. But I need the Broncos to come through for me and make it an undefeated week! ARGH!!!!

Has anyone here ever had an undefeated week? I had a 15-1 week in the first year of our pool here, but haven't had that since.

[Ryan Pode]

Jamal Lewis' days as the Raven's starter are numbered. And I think its 1.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I went 11-2, which is great, but you guys all did better! :shakefist

[Yog]

14-0! :crack

[sirdizzy]

You fail to remember that since 2000, the Ravens have won
In Baltimore, 21-3
In Denver, 20-13
In Baltimore 34-23
In Baltimore 26-6

And the only loss came 12-10 in Denver, because of Kyle Boller's fumble when he scrambled untouched. Billick can beat Shanahan. The Denver running shuts down when it plays a physical opponent (Ravens, Steelers, etc.) and Jake Plummer is an interception waiting to happen. McNair + Defense = Ravens W

Denver is a soft team. If you play smashmouth football with them, they will fold.

Yea thats right, suck on that. I am sorry the question of who has the best D in the AFC was answered and it wasn't the popular answer everone expected. Denver punched the ravens right back in the mouth and went blow for blow with them and wore them down and made them choke on the ball in the 4th quarter.

The big difference is Denvers front 4 who are getting nothing but constant pressure on the opposition. This has allowed for Denver not to have to blitz as much and allowed them to stop big plays over the middle. Just ask Steve Mcnair and Tom Brady who were harrased, knocked down and just plain knocked silly by the denver front 4. Denver still has the best trio of LBs in the league and arguably might have the best trio of CBs too (the bears trio is pretty fearsome as well). For the first time a team decided to challenge Bailey and look what happened.

In 66 years only 2 teams have allowed only 1 td in 4 games the 2006 Broncos and the 2000 Dolphins.

The broncos are reminding me of last years Bears team, all D and just enough offense to get the win. Know if they can get the kinks worked out of their offense they will be fearsome.

[JMK]

14-0! :crack


That makes 2 of us Satan!

[sirdizzy]

i went 13-1

[JMK]

I think this will go down as probably the most successful week in the history of our pool. It looks as though no one had more than 3 losses. If you did have more...shame on you! You need to pay more attention! ;)

[Ryan Pode]

Yea thats right, suck on that. I am sorry the question of who has the best D in the AFC was answered and it wasn't the popular answer everone expected. Denver punched the ravens right back in the mouth and went blow for blow with them and wore them down and made them choke on the ball in the 4th quarter.

The big difference is Denvers front 4 who are getting nothing but constant pressure on the opposition. This has allowed for Denver not to have to blitz as much and allowed them to stop big plays over the middle. Just ask Steve Mcnair and Tom Brady who were harrased, knocked down and just plain knocked silly by the denver front 4. Denver still has the best trio of LBs in the league and arguably might have the best trio of CBs too (the bears trio is pretty fearsome as well). For the first time a team decided to challenge Bailey and look what happened.

In 66 years only 2 teams have allowed only 1 td in 4 games the 2006 Broncos and the 2000 Dolphins.

The broncos are reminding me of last years Bears team, all D and just enough offense to get the win. Know if they can get the kinks worked out of their offense they will be fearsome.


You're right. Denver has the best defense, considering how explosive and AWESOME the Raven's offense is. Three gifts from a QB who has been in the system for 4 months. You guys rock. Even with horrible special teams and turnovers we continued to hold you to fewer yards while our offense actually moved the ball up until the interceptions. </sarcasm>

[sirdizzy]

your wrong a couple people did well but still missed 4-5 games

JMK 14-0
Master Yoghurt 14-0
Sirdizzy 13-1
Blade Ice 13-1
Figrin D'an 13-1
Jinn Fizz 13-1
Tannis V'Larr 12-2
Nathanial K'cansce 12-2
Ryan Pode 12-2 (thats what you get for picking the ravens)
jjwr 11-3
Lilaena De'Ville 11-3
Jedieb 11-3
Jedi Master Carr 11-3
Ambrose Braedan 10-4
Liam Jinn 9-5

not too shabby with two perfect teams and four that only lost 1 game

[sirdizzy]

just last week Ryan you were praising mister McNair, know you are finding excuses for him. Your exact words were Ravens D + Mcnair = Ravens W

when it should have been Denver D + McNair = Denver win

and Denver stopped the Ravens running game too, and has only allowed 1 TD all season and that was a garbage time TD to the pats. Cmon don't kid yourself your team was overrated and denver was underrated

[Ryan Pode]

Well, I figured McNair would improve. He made poor choices. But you can hardly say any of those interceptions were awesome turnovers. Our running game did fairly well. Go look at how well we ran against Cleveland and San Diego.

[sirdizzy]

leader board so far

Figrin Dan 13-1 (55-19)

Jinn Fizz 13-1 (54-20)

sirdizzy 13-1 (53-21)
JMK 14-0 (53-21)
Master Yoghurt 14-0 (53-21)

Blade Ice 13-1 (52-22)

jjwr 11-3 (51-23)
Tannis V'larr 12-2 (51-23)
Ryan Pode 12-2 (51-23)

Jedi Master Carr 11-3 (50-24)

Liam Jinn 9-5 (49-25)
Nathanial K'cansce 12-2 (49-25)

Jedieb 11-3 (48-26)

Lilaena De'Ville 11-3 (46-28)

Ambrose 10-4 (37-21)

[Ryan Pode]

Which brings me back to my earlier point, Jamal Lewis' days as the starter are numbered. He just doesn't have that burst anymore while Mike Anderson and Musa Smith still do.

[sirdizzy]

I still think the Ravens are a good team, I was just hearing way too many people thinking superbowl and best D in the AFC. Denver has the best D in the AFC, only 34 points and 1 TD in 4 games. Ravens would have the #2 D in the AFC, just look at last nights game that was 6-3 tell the final 2 minutes thats too pretty good D's slugging it out.

Ravens got a real good chance at the AFC North because pittsburg is gone and I think the Bengals will find some way to stumble a little bit. Cleveland is a joke so all you got to do is beat out Cincy.

McNair will get better as the season goes on and he gets more accustomed to that offense but none of his picks were because he wasn't used to the offense, they were jake the bonehead kinds of mistakes against a good D who capitilized. The first one they tried to do a jump ball over Bailey, you can blame that one on Billick for making that call. The second one McNair wasn't paying attention as Williams stayed home and he Mcnair threw a boneheaded play. The last one was because Denver dropped a D lineman intos Mcnairs passing lane and caused a tip ball drill, that one was great Denver D right there.

[JMK]

Listen boys, they are both tremendous defenses and mediocre offenses. I still maintain that if the game was in Baltimore, I would have taken the Ravens and I bet they would have won. But if I were a Ravens fan, I probably would have taken them on the road, even against the Broncos. McNair made some idiotic mistakes and Plummer stopped making idiotic mistakes. It's not hard to figure out why the Broncos were able to slug this one out. Factor in the weather and it truly becomes a game of home field advantage...although I must admit, when the Ravens scored first, I was beginning to worry a bit. It wasn't until the Broncos went up 13-3 that I let out a sigh of relief and knew that my perfect week would come to fruition!

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Ha-HA! Liam and I are tied. >=D

[Lilaena De'Ville]

haha Liam only did 9-5, I creamed him this week.

I'm still in second to last place, however. :(

[sirdizzy]

I'd say you were in last because ambrose is missing week 1 (in my pay pickem league if you missed a week you got the low score for that week, why don't we give ambrose the low score for week 1 so he can be on even footing)

[Nathanial K'cansce]

I approve of that idea.

[Yog]

I like that idea as well

[jjwr]

Sounds good to me as well.

[JMK]

Sounds simple enough but I would prefer to award him some sort of average for week 1based on everyone else's average, or his own average based on his other weeks of picking.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

The problem with giving him an average score (based on his other weeks or the scores for that week by everyone else) is that he has the opprotunity (sp? - mid day breakbetween too many hours of classes) to get higher scores than those who actually got their picks in on time. There's no real punishment for that, and relatively isn't fair to everyone else.

[Ryan Pode]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-prestonqa1010,0,7291916.story?coll=bal-sports-football

AHAHAHAHA. 5th question down.

[Jedieb]

The problem with giving him an average score (based on his other weeks or the scores for that week by everyone else) is that he has the opprotunity (sp? - mid day breakbetween too many hours of classes) to get higher scores than those who actually got their picks in on time. There's no real punishment for that, and relatively isn't fair to everyone else.

I run a football pool and we have a rule for people who miss their picks. They get stuck with all the away teams. Some weeks it's not too bad, others it's devastating. That's my recommendation.

[Liam Jinn]

Ok, yeah... I did poorly this week. And to further that thought, there were two seperate posts starting with "Haha Liam". :\

I'll come back!!

[sirdizzy]

well lets vote on it

A. Ambrose gets low score for week 1 (6-10 was low score for those keeping track)
B. Ambrose gets the average score from week 1 (average score was 9-7)
C. Ambrose gets all the away teams (week 1 away teams went 7-9)
D. Leave it be.


and last week would be an example of getting hosed by away teams as you would be 2-12 if you picked the away teams.


I vote C, seems fair.

[Ryan Pode]

Away teams seems fair. C. Some weeks its great, some weeks its not.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I vote c, as well

[Yog]

I like A (my vote), although C works nicely as well.

[Ambrose Braeden]

it doesnt really matter to me...

[jjwr]

C works for me.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

I vote C.

Even though A might make more sense to me, C is more of a random selection. Thus, a bit more fairer.

[JMK]

I still prefer my recommendation, but this is a democracy and I'll go along with C as well. :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

If its a democracy, you should vote however you feel you should, not how 'everyone else is voting.' Democracy will fall apart!

I vote C. Because I WANTED to vote C. Really. :uhoh

[JMK]

Fine FINE

Burn in hell you C voters! I'm changing back to my vote! Screw you all!!!!!!!!!!!!