Geez, I need a weapon

[Wyl Staedtler]

I'm looking out the window by my computer desk right now and there's a SWAT team (or at least they LOOK like a SWAT team) on the street; they were there when I came home from work a half hour ago and we've been told to lock my windows and doors because there's a fugitive in the neighborhood. Helicopters have been circling too.

It's slightly cool, and a little scary particulary because I have nothing in the house but a lamp that could be used as a weapon. Even my steak knives are dull.

My roommate was having a fit, but then she calmed down and said that we should go down the street and see what was happening ("he's contained, obviously, let's get some more information.")

What's sad is that this is not a big surprise in this neighborhood. It's a big ice-binging sort of place and there's always trouble brewing. We've never had helicoptors though. :/

This actually makes me consider getting a gun of some kind, for protection. There've just been too many incidents in the last few weeks.

[Morgan Evanar]

Springfield XD in 9mm or .40 S&W, or a Baby Eagle / Jerico in 9mm or 40 S&W. I prefer how the Baby Eagle feels but I have large hands :)

[Saveeradeevaravaravee]

Just take this rubber band, a paper clip, and a piece of string...

*Does some fancy work that no one can see*

And voila! Your very own sub-machine gun! :D

[/MacGyver]

[Cirrsseeto Quez]

Sorry, I don't have anything that'll take on a SWAT team


;)

Actually, I'd break from tradition and suggest you get a shotgun, if you're only interested in home defense. Mossberg 500 or, if you are lucky and can find it, a Saiga 12 :)

[Wyl Staedtler]

I need to learn how to shoot first. How old do you have to be in the US to own a gun (legally)?

I'm waiting for the six o'clock news to come on to see what this was all about. The helicopters are still around and the police tape is up but the actual manpower is nowhere in sight.

EDIT: He's done. According to the news the chase got serious when he rammed into the vehicle of the federal marshal trying to get him, and then took off. He was arrested in a field down the street--he'd been hiding in a shed. I guess it was a long chase because it started in the city and that's forty-five minutes away. Somebody was stabbed there today and died, they think he was involved. Scary.

[Morgan Evanar]

18 for rifles and shottys, 21 for handguns. I think.
Originally posted by Cirrsseeto Raurrssatta
Sorry, I don't have anything that'll take on a SWAT team


;)

Actually, I'd break from tradition and suggest you get a shotgun, if you're only interested in home defense. Mossberg 500 or, if you are lucky and can find it, a Saiga 12 :) Thinking about it, I agree. Birdshot in a good shotgun is a great home defense weapon.

[Sudoku]

You should just move back to Canada ;)

[Daiquiri]

I like 38's. Theyre loud and will stop whats coming at you.

[Khendon Sevon]

Shotgun good...

Eh, all I have is my spiffy assisted opening blade.

Ignore the button on it.

[Lucianus Adair]

Originally posted by Kyashi
You should just move back to Canada ;)

Canada is a good idea. I live there.

[Leten Snat]

I too also like the idea of you moving back to Canada to solve your home defence issues.

[Shawn]

There are no criminals in Canada? I must have missed the newsletter. :huh

[Anbira Hicchoru]

Originally posted by Leten Snat
I too also like the idea of you moving back to Canada to solve your home defence issues.

Except this doesn't really solve anything

[Akrabbim]

Guns = America!

Seriously, get a shotgun. Chuckles was right with the Mossberg 500 (the 590 is very nice for the room-sweeper cop type) recommendation. Bird shot is cheap and doesn't kick too bad, but will mess someone up. Not to mention, a pump action doesn't screw up much, and the sound of shucking a shell into the chamber will send most people running.

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by Akrabbim
Guns = America!

Seriously, get a shotgun. Chuckles was right with the Mossberg 500 (the 590 is very nice for the room-sweeper cop type) recommendation. Bird shot is cheap and doesn't kick too bad, but will mess someone up. Not to mention, a pump action doesn't screw up much, and the sound of shucking a shell into the chamber will send most people running.

I've had far more stalled cycles in your mossberg than I've ever had feeding issues in my Saiga. In fact, I've never had a single feeding issue in my Saiga at all!

And if I need a sound to deter somebody, I find "Leave or I will shoot you" to work.

[Clive Solo]

Remington makes some great home defense shotguns.

[Clive Solo]

Originally posted by Daiquiri
I like 38's. Theyre loud and will stop whats coming at you.

Ehhh that's a so-so argument. I own a .38, but when it came down to it I'd rather have my .45

[Sudoku]

Originally posted by Shawn
There are no criminals in Canada? I must have missed the newsletter. :huh


There are, we just don't make a big deal about having guns in our homes for protection. Theres actually some debate about making handguns illegal here because of all the shootings in Toronto (Like, the one in a church at a funeral, for instance :x)

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by Kyashi
There are, we just don't make a big deal about having guns in our homes for protection. Theres actually some debate about making handguns illegal here because of all the shootings in Toronto (Like, the one in a church at a funeral, for instance :x)

I'll bet you a thousand moon dollars or whatever you use in Canada that not even 5% of your homicides are committed with legally owned handguns.

This may be the safest bet I have ever wagered. Safer than Reggie Bush vs Stephen Hawking. Seriously.

[Sudoku]

You know that I have no clue about anything to do with guns, Charley. I'm sure that most crimes are committed with illegal guns, in whatever country you're in. But I'm not an MP or PM, and I'm not the one making laws against guns - it's just something I read in the paper. :|

[Sanis Prent]

I know, but I think it's something that as a Canadian citizen, you should dig into and get to know.

Let me put it another way:

Isn't it very interesting that Martin brings this particular act up after his government gets the wrong end of a no confidence vote? Isn't it doubly interesting considering that the chances of a majority government surviving the vote are practically zero if you consider that the Liberals don't get the nod; and that the real weight-carriers in the minority movement are the conservatives and new democrats?

Divide and conquer is an old and effective technique, and the only thing this gun legislation will do as far as results is to put the liberals back into office. It's not even about guns to them. It could be about banning clown suits and it would still be politics at the heart of it all.

I mean, handguns are practically banned in Canada in the first place. The amount of legalese you have to wade through in order to own one, and the rules you abide by once in ownership, make it so that if you're not at a shooting range, or with your handgun locked up at home, you are breaking the law. So once again, I question the sincerity of all of it :)

[Jedieb]

http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B72702370-3BED-4772-BCB8-796B101BFFF4%7D.gif
or
http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B485B599C-6809-4D6F-A842-D96A2B5D54BD%7D.gif

Too many kids running around my homestead for me to own any. I'll use the weapons I stole from work; paper clips, rubber bands, heavy dictionaries, etc.:angel

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by Jedieb
http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B72702370-3BED-4772-BCB8-796B101BFFF4%7D.gif

An unfunny cartoon with a correlation = causation fallacy, awesome.



http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7B485B599C-6809-4D6F-A842-D96A2B5D54BD%7D.gif

Have this clever man quote you those EPIDEMIC self defense killing numbers. Here's a hint, the vast majority of such incidents are settled without a shot fired.

[Morgan Evanar]

Canada actually has more rifles and shotguns per capita than the US :shootin

Europe has many more stabbing deaths instead. OH NO GUNS ARE SCARY. What about the Swiss? Almost no crime and EVERYONE is armed.

If the Democrats in the US were smart they'd stop persuing reactionary BS and instead impliment a simple, sensible waiting period and background check. The cat is out of the bag and it has six inch claws and weighs 800 lbs.

[Anbira Hicchoru]

Originally posted by Morgan Evanar
waiting period and background check

No waiting periods. Background check does the same thing a wait period does.

[Sudoku]

I know, but I think it's something that as a Canadian citizen, you should dig into and get to know.

I think, as a Canadian citizen, I've become apathic to all things political, personally. Most things, actually. It must be all the cold weather.

All of my "political endeavors" have been me going, voting, and having the party I vote for lose miserably. Why? Because, in the past, that party has royally screwed some majority of the population over. *cough*GST - I love paying 15% taxes on nearly everything I buy!*cough* I'm quite sure the party that wins the election will do so only by being the lesser of evils.

[Leten Snat]

Really it's not like the options are all that good for us up here. And really it dosent matter. They all are going to give us a raw deal, They ALL really don't care about the people of canada, and Really whoever gets up there as PM, really will not change things too much.

I just don't want Harper as PM. That man Creeps me out.

[Anbira Hicchoru]

Agreed, every single party front man is a creep up there for some reason.

[Akrabbim]

Originally posted by Sanis Prent
I've had far more stalled cycles in your mossberg than I've ever had feeding issues in my Saiga. In fact, I've never had a single feeding issue in my Saiga at all!

And if I need a sound to deter somebody, I find "Leave or I will shoot you" to work.



That was because there was an extended mag, but not an extended mag SPRING. The guy who owned the gun before me did that one. I got that fixed... never had a problem since.

[Jedieb]

Originally posted by Morgan Evanar

If the Democrats in the US were smart they'd stop persuing reactionary BS and instead impliment a simple, sensible waiting period and background check. The cat is out of the bag and it has six inch claws and weighs 800 lbs.

No party in the US could pusue legislation featuring waiting periods or background checks in the US without the NRA unleashing a torrent of "reactionary BS." You mention either of those topics and the NRA goes nuts. Hell, people start talking about keeping guns out of the hands of people on terror watch lists and the NRA takes it as an attack on every gun owner in the country.

I like the both those cartoons and I think it's pretty clear that the second one is obviously pro gun. Just wanted to throw out a couple of different sides of the issue.

[Cirrsseeto Quez]

Originally posted by Jedieb
Hell, people start talking about keeping guns out of the hands of people on terror watch lists and the NRA takes it as an attack on every gun owner in the country.

Well, it pretty much is, especially when you consider that there's practically zero accountability in putting these "terror watch lists" together. Didn't we have a few congressmen on that at one point?

And I reiterate my point that waiting periods are pretty useless when instant background checks do the same thing without wasting any time.

[Lucianus Adair]

Originally posted by Leten Snat
I just don't want Harper as PM. That man Creeps me out.

Ahh, Stephen Harper. Not only is he creepy-looking, his voice is the most boring of dronings that will annoy you and lull you to sleep all at the same time. And he looks like that random kid you knew in highschool that was a little chubby and thought he was the best thing since sliced bread, yet lacked the confidence to show it for fear of ridicule from the jocks.

Actually...Leten...He makes me think of Nick Marshman, when I look at him. *shudder*

[JMK]

Gilles Duceppe! Vive le Québec libre.

:rolleyes

I hate the separatists with every fibre of my being.

[Khendon Sevon]

Yeah, gotta' watch out for their droid armies.

[Cirrsseeto Quez]

Originally posted by Khendon Sevon
Yeah, gotta' watch out for their droid armies.

I fear no battle droid made by Peugeot.

(Yes I realize that is in fact French and not Quebecois. I stand by my statement)

[Pierce Tondry]

Originally posted by Jedieb
some cartoons

Actually, I find it distressing that cartoons such as those are still touted as humor. One would think that our satirists and comics have not become so bereft of imagination that they would need to fall back on tired cliches to pass off as subject material, but that seems to be the unfortunate state of things.

But I suppose, as is the case with all political satire, those who agree with its viewpoint find it funny, while those who oppose it write angry letters to the editor and generate higher advertising buyrates for the paper.

[Morgan Evanar]

Originally posted by Cirrsseeto Raurrssatta
I fear no battle droid made by Peugeot.

(Yes I realize that is in fact French and not Quebecois. I stand by my statement) I'd only fear a Works droid from Citroen.