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Droo
May 26th, 2005, 08:29:46 AM
That's right, boys and girls: for the up and coming boardwide reset, Shadow Squadron will be making a return to truly take the fight to the Rebel scum!

But we need your help! Shadow Squadron is looking for fresh new recruits interested in roleplaying the elite of starfighter combat. So, if you have ever had an interest in the military or fleeting side of things in roleplaying but have found them somewhat inaccessible, then this is the thing for you.

Roleplaying as a Shadow Squadron starfighter pilot is a fresh and invigorating roleplaying experience; and by and large, this is thanks to the larger than life characters that make up our numbers. They are a bunch of talented cocky young pilots with a healthy penchant for boozing and brawling after hours. Egos and wise-cracks flying all over the show!

Space skirmishes with the squadron are fast, unpredictable, action-packed, dramatic and even comical. After hours, there is plenty of room for character development in as wide a variety of different scenarios as you could imagine and you may even find room for some intersellar romance! (:love Bette)

That's pretty much the pitch right there, so if your interested or just curious, post here and all your queries will be answered. All queries aside, enrol now to be a part of the toughest and best fighter squadron in the Empire!

Shadow Squadron

http://www.andrew-milligan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/roleplaying/misc/ssinsignia.jpg

Lady Vader
May 26th, 2005, 10:37:01 AM
If you need a home-away-from-home base (as I'm assuming Shadow Squadron is based on Coruscant), you have Javus Parr's support on Corellia.

PM me and we can work out details if you like. :)

Bette Davis
May 26th, 2005, 11:22:35 AM
BETTE DAVIS REPORTING FOR DUTY, [SIR!

Oh, and may I remind you, I out rank you.

Droo
May 26th, 2005, 11:24:33 AM
Don't make me destroy you.

Lady Vader
May 26th, 2005, 11:25:25 AM
Oooooo... a power hungry one, she is.

Bette Davis
May 26th, 2005, 11:40:44 AM
I'm not power hungry, I just know what's mine. I'm a Flight Commander!

Baralai Lotus
May 26th, 2005, 11:43:10 AM
Well, it sounds like loads of fun. I have a character who will be joining. Jill Chambers, go ahead and add her to the roster. Enjoy her, she'll do you well. lol

Lady Vader
May 26th, 2005, 11:45:03 AM
Flight Command on then!

Droo
May 26th, 2005, 11:55:06 AM
Originally posted by Baralai Lotus
Well, it sounds like loads of fun. I have a character who will be joining. Jill Chambers, go ahead and add her to the roster. Enjoy her, she'll do you well. lol

Glad to hear it, matey. Welcome onboard. :)

Bette Davis
May 26th, 2005, 11:56:54 AM
Yes we need new X-Wing fodder. I mean... er...

Jason Dreggs
May 26th, 2005, 11:59:34 AM
(I'm waiting on a counter offer for this character but if not he is yours)

Real name: Jason jr. Mcgraves
AKA: Jason Dreggs
age:18

Fresh out of the Balmorran Imperial acadomy. He graduated one of the top pilots in his class. He can fly anything that has a pilots seat. His Birth name was Jason Jr. Mcgraves but he spited his father he took his mothers last name and now goes by Jason Dreggs. It was his fathers dream for him to become a high ranking officer in the Imperial Intelgence but Dreggs wanted to see the stars as he shot down other fighters.

He enjoys the thrills and adrenline rush of a good dog fight. Never mind his demerites for insabordinations while he was in the acadomy he loves to fight whether it be in the cockpit or with fists on the ground. He thinks he is the best and he is out to prove it to everyone.

Droo
May 26th, 2005, 12:01:42 PM
Jason sounds like he was made for Shadow Squadron.

*waves hand mystically*

This is the character offer you're looking for...

:cool

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 12:09:33 PM
We should properly be based out of an ISD, not a planet.

Droo
May 26th, 2005, 12:11:40 PM
Definately on a ship, regardless of where we are - that's a given. It wouldn't make sense to have our characters cooped up on some planet when the action takes place in space. So if anything, it would be a VSD or ISD in orbit of said planet.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 12:13:47 PM
We should start out in the middle of the mop up of the battle of Endor.

Droo
May 26th, 2005, 12:16:33 PM
That makes sense. Where else would Shadow Squadron have been but there? And presumably, we lost some people so we start with the recruiting process to effectively integrate new members into the group. :)

Tiberius Anar
May 26th, 2005, 12:17:18 PM
The lady has excellent taste. Shall I find you an admiral, madam, fleet or vice?

Bette Davis
May 26th, 2005, 12:25:48 PM
We do need a commander, sir, so if you can set us up that would be frelling fantastic. ;)

Aliya Vahlshalynn
May 26th, 2005, 02:25:35 PM
Aliya Vahlshalynn reporting for duty. Currently no rank ;)

Drin Kizael
May 26th, 2005, 02:56:25 PM
I -was- going to make an Imperial Captain for this ship. But if it's first come first serve for the spot, it's all good.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 03:18:26 PM
Oh, and make sure you think up a catchy callsign. We currently have Val "Razor" Torre, and Bette "Shooter" Davis, who are our highest ranking pilots in the squadron at the moment.

Jill "Stilletto" Chambers?

Edit: To be clear -a squadron is comprised of twelve fighters. In this case, TIE fighters. Our roster as follows:

1. Shadow Leader (NPC right now)
2. Val "Razor" Torre
3. Bette "Shooter" Davis
4. Jill Chambers
5. Jason "Outcast" Dreggs
6. Ulrhik "Dragon" Godsend
7. Sango "Feth" Kariudo
8. Zachariah "Jackal" Jak'el
9. Aliya "Chipper" Vahlshalynn
10. (NPC)
11. (NPC)
12. (NPC)

Commanding Officer/Shadow Leader?: General Tal "Lucky" Kellison (we can think up a better pet name for you ;))
Deck Chief/Test pilot: Taijin "Outback" Daece

Edit edit: And I think it's only reasonable that people who wish to start up Rogue Squadron should do so as well, but start a new thread for it. We need someone to fly against, after all. (assume Wedge= ded)

Dasquian Belargic
May 26th, 2005, 03:32:15 PM
Edit edit: And I think it's only reasonable that people who wish to start up Rogue Squadron should do so as well, but start a new thread for it. We need someone to fly against, after all. (assume Wedge= ded)

I have popped a thread up in the Republic forums to see if anyone there has anything planned. :)

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 03:34:59 PM
Awesome :)

Anbira Hicchoru
May 26th, 2005, 03:37:21 PM
I am planning on making Eluna a Rebel Pilot (Pink Leader) :D

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 03:39:23 PM
Originally posted by Anbira Hicchoru
I am planning on making Eluna a Rebel Pilot (Pink Leader) :D
Please tell me this is a joke. :p

Kelt Simoson
May 26th, 2005, 03:40:22 PM
lol The Pinelopy Pitstop of the skies!

Anbira Hicchoru
May 26th, 2005, 03:41:35 PM
Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
Please tell me this is a joke. :p

It's no joke :)

Okay well maybe Pink group is a little far, but I'll have an A-wing, and maybe my helmet will be pink or something.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 03:42:13 PM
"Heyelp me! heyelp me!"

Kelt Simoson
May 26th, 2005, 03:43:17 PM
http://www.witneyrfc.fsnet.co.uk/Images/misc/Pitstop.jpg

Come on, be Pitstop!

Aliya Vahlshalynn
May 26th, 2005, 03:44:31 PM
Aliya "Chipper" Vahlshalynn

cuz I hate getting up in the morning :p

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 03:46:11 PM
;) edited it into the roster.

Grym Kandle
May 26th, 2005, 03:46:16 PM
Hmmm, how about... Ulrhik "Krayt Dragon" Godsend reporting for duty? Or maybe I'll just be "Dragon", I dunno, gotta get accepted first right? XD

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 03:47:14 PM
We need guys, so you're hired. ;)

Grym Kandle
May 26th, 2005, 03:48:15 PM
Ouch, only accepted due to affirmative action? XD lol

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 03:48:47 PM
:lol reverse affirmative action!

Just thought - it's very odd to have females in the Empire, so we'd be viewed as sort of an oddball group of misfits to the general fleet. Only thing is, they can't really say much about us 'cause we always kick butt and get our job done.

Drin Kizael
May 26th, 2005, 05:11:53 PM
Okay I've got a better character idea for this than the ship commander. But I would need some original art for his avatar and sig.

You want to be an oddball group in the Empire? How about adding a Zabrak to the squadron. Taijin "Outback" Daece.

If the demand for a place in the squadron is high, I could put him in a support role to make room for another fighter pilot. Every military operation needs a scout.

Lilaena would you be willing to do a couple sketches for me? :)

Lilaena De'Ville
May 26th, 2005, 05:14:13 PM
ack I'm not the person to be asking about sketches. I'm sure we can find someone to do it though.. you could try PM-ing s'Ilancy.

And, you're enlisted now. ;)

edit: to be more true to the Empire, I think the rest of the pilots should be human males.

Clive Solo
May 26th, 2005, 05:28:49 PM
Originally posted by Kelt Simoson
http://www.witneyrfc.fsnet.co.uk/Images/misc/Pitstop.jpg

Come on, be Pitstop!

:lol Nice Kelt...

Lion El' Jonson
May 26th, 2005, 07:35:46 PM
If you're willing to allow me to RP people on both sides of this war, I'd like to join Shadow Squadron.

Lt. Sango "Feth" Kariudo
Age: 24
Graduated from: Imperial TIE Academy, Borleias
Nationality: Coruscant

Sango was born on Coruscant to a lower-class family, and since he was saved from thugs in the Undercity at the age of 14 by a squad of Imperial Stormtroopers, he has harbored an immense respect for the Empire. He worked hard in school and sunk most of his time into piloting simulators, earning money by working as a starship mechanic. As soon as he turned 18, he was given a scholarship for acceptance into the Imperial Academy on Borleias as a TIE fighter pilot.
His immense skill with a starfighter impressed his instructors, as did his wide and often-utilized knowledge of swear words from several cultures. His callsign, 'Feth', was chosen because it was his favorite word to use when killing his enemies.

Jason Dreggs
May 26th, 2005, 08:10:03 PM
Jason "Outcast" Dreggs

Drin Kizael
May 26th, 2005, 08:27:20 PM
After thinking about it, I think that Taijin would be better in a support role. Every operation is going to need a scout to recon, gather intel on the target, and run tactical. That's how I saw the character more.

He'd be a decent pilot, but not necessarily TIE dogfighting good. So take him off the main roster and count me in as support along with whoever plays your ISD Captain or Admiral.

I have a sinking feeling that getting Rogue Squadron up to this many players may be tough. You may find yourselves in more Storytelling threads than RPing against another team in dogfighting. That's not a bad thing, just bracing you for the possibility. :)

Gav Mortis
May 26th, 2005, 08:35:30 PM
We had to do that most of the time anyway but it wasn't Storytelling stuff though, the dogfights are pretty much secondary to everything in Shadow Squadron which was and, I imagine, will continue to be very much character driven.

Hunk
May 26th, 2005, 08:55:03 PM
I would think Shadow Squadron would need an Imperial Naval officer to report to. If so, I humbly offer myself to play a character I've been working out: Lieutenant Tal Kellison.

Though never witness to the clone wars or any resulting violence himself, he was indoctrined to support without question the Republic, and later the Empire, by his father, who defined himself by his patriotism. In fact, during the clone wars, his home was a “droid free zone,” and his father credited everything good in their lives to “those brave boys in white,” referring to the Clone Troopers. When the Imperial Navy opened its doors to new recruits, he jumped at the chance, even lying about his age so he could enlist two years early. Rising quickly through the ranks thanks to his bootlicking skills and ability to pass blame on to other people, he was recently promoted to the rank of lieutenant, serving upon the VSD “___.” He often suffers from delusions of grandeur, and is convinced that, had he been included in the planning, the Empire could have crushed all life out of the Rebellion at the battle of Endor. After being transferred from the first Death Star mere weeks before it’s destruction and narrowly avoiding being killed by a falling bulkhead at the Battle of Endor, he is a firm believer in fate and trusts most decisions in his day-to-day life to a chance cube.

So, basically he retains his position in the command structure because Shadow Squadron is so good, and in return you get a commanding officer who you can walk all over and ignore when you want to.

Zachariah Jak'el
May 26th, 2005, 09:18:32 PM
Zachariah Jak'el, wanting to join, sirs and ma'am. (Currently that is not my name but could someone be so kind as to change me name to that?)

As for a call sign I was going to say outcast but it seems Jason beat me too it. I was thinking 'Jackel' (sp) As in the egyption dog animal, also a sort of play of words on his last name. Or possibly "Raven', 'Rave' for short. I'm tired right now so I can't really think up anything.

EDIT: What type of ships will we be flying in this squadron? Will it be all one type or a mized batch of ships?

Lilaena De'Ville
May 27th, 2005, 12:49:01 AM
I can change your name.

And they will be TIE fighters, perhaps we will be able to upgrade to TIE Interceptors at some point. If you're good.

And when we originally played Shadow Squadron, we had about four NPC pilots. We can do the same here. And we never had RPed opponents that I remember. Never seemed to matter. :) Lemme mess with my roster and see if everyone thinks it makes sense.

It also stands to reason that we will not have every pilot in every RP. Know now that by being part of SS, you are going to be NPC-ed at some point. Make sure your characterization is strong so we'll be able to do a good job.

edit: I put Outback as our deck chief and test pilot. Shadow Squadron doesn't need a scout, that's something the VSD or ISD we're stationed on would have. You could be a scout that hangs out with us, though, if you want. ... maybe?

And I gave the Lieutenant a catchy nickname we can call him behind his back. >D

Lion El' Jonson
May 27th, 2005, 01:14:36 AM
Whoops...

Lilaena De'Ville
May 27th, 2005, 01:21:55 AM
Whoops I didn't see you!

I think you need a new callsign - what's a 'feth' ?

Lion El' Jonson
May 27th, 2005, 01:36:27 AM
Haha, I apologize for bumping the thread, I accidentally hit QuickQuote instead of QuickEdit when I was trying to edit my post back on page two. Momentary brain fart.

As for the callsign, it's intended to be a swear word native to Coruscant's Undercity, but I'm not really liking how it'd sound as a callsign anymore. I'll try to think of something different. ^_^;

Thanks, Lil.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 27th, 2005, 01:46:43 AM
Then you should make it "Frell"

:) Or "Freller"

Lion El' Jonson
May 27th, 2005, 02:45:39 AM
Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
Then you should make it "Frell"

:) Or "Freller"

"Frell" makes me think of Xazor.

Cat Terrist
May 27th, 2005, 04:09:21 AM
Originally posted by Lion El' Jonson
"Frell" makes me think of Xazor.

You mean whipped cream. Frell makes me think of Arya about to beat the living scram out of someone after they annoyed her.

Drin Kizael
May 27th, 2005, 06:49:51 AM
Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
And they will be TIE fighters, perhaps we will be able to upgrade to TIE Interceptors at some point. If you're good.

Okay... I know how back in the day, the type of ship flown caused a lot of grief among the fleet players. So I can understand your hesitancy to want better fighters so you can keep it about the characters.

I'm sure you realize though, there's really no such thing as a squadron of reknown in the Empire -because- of the ships they fly. Basic TIE fighters are flying solar batteries with 2 lasers. But they were cheap and easy to produce in mass. The sheer number and appearance had an intimidation factor, too.

But if a pilot survived more than like 5 missions in an "eyeball", he was the MAN. If they were any good, they got bumped to an Interceptor right away. "Squints" get four lasers for more rapid fire and better maneuverability without breaking the Empire's budget.

Since Shadow Squadron is supposed to be comprised of the best and brightest, I have trouble thinking that any Admiral worth his bars would want to risk us in a TIE.

TIE-Adv were still -extremely- rare and only used on special missions. Despite their popularity thanks to the video games, I wouldn't suggest those. Actually the number of TIE-Adv that were used in the old fleet threads was part of what made me hate them.

But at least get them Interceptors. :)

Morgan Evanar
May 27th, 2005, 07:21:49 AM
Yeah, you're all gonna be in Squinties, and I'm going to wing all of your shieldless POSes

Grym Kandle
May 27th, 2005, 07:34:17 AM
The only Imperial squadron I can recall really being mentioned, other than the Black Squadron that escorted Vader during the attack on the 1st Death Star, was the 181st, and the higher ups of that flew Interceptors, I believe. But hey, TIEs, TIE Interceptors, you kinda do with what you're given right?

Jason Dreggs
May 27th, 2005, 07:56:52 AM
I don't care what I fly. I can fly anything and those rebels will pay for there crimes against the Empire. If all else fails I'll komokazy (sp) them rebel scum take as many of them with me as I can. They will pay just give me a ship I will show just how loyal I am to the empire.

Milivikal k'Vik
May 27th, 2005, 10:53:53 AM
Kamikaze. You're a lot of suckers flying ships without shields.

Jason Dreggs
May 27th, 2005, 11:02:09 AM
Shields are for wusses a real man can fly a ship with out shields and not get hit. But since the rebels don't teach there pilots how to fly they need shields. Also Basically I don't care just makes it easier for my character to die and at this point I don't care.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 27th, 2005, 11:14:53 AM
Ok well I said TIES because I couldn't remember the ones we flew before.

Interceptors it is. Advanced if you good.

Edit: I also promoted "Lucky" to General. Hope no one is offended.


Flight Commander Silus Xilarian.......Shadow Leader

Flight Commander Val "Razor" Torre............Shadow Two

Flight Commander Bette "Shooter" Davis........Shadow Three

Lieutenant (j.g) Elessar "Frosty" Stavit.....Shadow Four

Colonel Slayn "Zephyr" Cloak........Shadow Five

Lieutenant Rain "Jaguar" Hapes.........Shadow Six (NPC)

Lieutenant Quellin "Rube" Vos.........Shadow Seven

Lieutenant Kam "Oddball" Dapp................Shadow Eight

Colonel Vance "Ripper" Emmerick..Shadow Nine (NPC)

Captain Ned "Hawk" Stark...............Shadow Ten

Colonel Tamara "Stiletto" Farnsworth..Shadow Eleven (NPC)

Colonel Tod "Maniac" Marr............Shadow Twelve
^our former roster

If the Lieutenant (drat I just un-promoted him again!) wants to be Shadow Leader...?

Dru, help me out here.

Tiberius Anar
May 27th, 2005, 03:13:59 PM
Just for the information of anyone wishing to join the Empire in the glorious war to come (felt the need to say that) we are gathering all ideas here:

http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38450

For ease of access and to get some idea of who we have.

Thanks.

p.s. May we count Shadow Squadron's members as "joined"?

Lilaena De'Ville
May 27th, 2005, 04:16:45 PM
Yes, they are joined.

And the members so far should decide what number they want to be. Val and Bette are 2 and 3, respectively (unless Val decides he wants to be shadow leader!).

Val and I will make up a few NPCs to round out the roster.

Re-posting the roster:


1. Shadow Leader (NPC right now)
2. Flight Commander Val "Razor" Torre
3. Flight Commander Bette "Shooter" Davis
4. Jill Chambers
5. Jason "Outcast" Dreggs
6. Ulrhik "Dragon" Godsend
7. Flight Commander Sango "Feth" Kariudo
8. Zachariah "Jackal" Jak'el
9. Aliya "Chipper" Vahlshalynn
10. (NPC)
11. (NPC)
12. (NPC)

Commanding Officer: General Tal "Lucky" Kellison (we can think up a better pet name for you ;))
Deck Chief/Test pilot: Taijin "Outback" Daece

Navaria Tarkin
May 27th, 2005, 04:19:46 PM
Aliya can be whatever. I made her one of the newest to be assigned to Shadow since the Imps thought it would fit her :)

So Rank and Number.. all good to choose for her.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 27th, 2005, 04:22:20 PM
We'll leave you as Shadow 9 then. :)

Lion El' Jonson
May 27th, 2005, 11:53:42 PM
Historically, the real Shadow Squadron started flying TIE Defenders 3 years after the Battle of Endor, when they were decommissioned and immediately recommissioned as a "Test Squadron" for the Imperial Security Bureau. (This meant that they participated in assassinations, intelligence raids...all of those fun ISB missions).

I have no problem flying a Squint, and our near-legendary ability to escape harm in unshielded crates will lend itself well to our future reputation as an elite squadron. :D

Hunk
May 28th, 2005, 12:37:43 AM
Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
Ok well I said TIES because I couldn't remember the ones we flew before.

Interceptors it is. Advanced if you good.

Edit: I also promoted "Lucky" to General. Hope no one is offended.


^our former roster

If the Lieutenant (drat I just un-promoted him again!) wants to be Shadow Leader...?

Dru, help me out here.

Actually, two problems with that.

1. "General" is an Army rank
2. The naval equivilent, "Admiral," is a bit too high. I'd say "Commodore" at the very highest, "Captain," ideally

And just one little note: Kellison's only flown in a TIE Fighter once. It made him nauseous

Edit: One more note. "Colonel" would also be innappropriate for a starfighter pilot. "Group Captain" or "Wing Commander" would be better.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 28th, 2005, 01:16:37 AM
Er, I was only going off of what we had before.

And I didn't even KNOW there was a "historical" Shadow Squadron. Needless to say, we're going to be in Interceptors with shields. It's be impossible and implausible for us to survive with out them.

Lion El' Jonson
May 28th, 2005, 01:20:39 AM
Originally posted by Hunk
Actually, two problems with that.

1. "General" is an Army rank
2. The naval equivilent, "Admiral," is a bit too high. I'd say "Commodore" at the very highest, "Captain," ideally

And just one little note: Kellison's only flown in a TIE Fighter once. It made him nauseous

Edit: One more note. "Colonel" would also be innappropriate for a starfighter pilot. "Group Captain" or "Wing Commander" would be better.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/insignia/nomenclature.html

Starfighter Command in the Star Wars Universe follows the rank conventions of the Air Force; we don't assume them to be part of the Navy despite the fact that they fly off vessels of the fleet. Therefore, 'Air Marshall' is the correct terminology, although we almost exclusively see Imperial starfighter commanders (General Fel) ranked 'General', and therefore this is probably acceptable, although it needs to be determined what rank of general is held: Brigadier General, Lieutenant General, Major General, etc.

I know that New Republic Wing Commander Varth eventually became a Colonel, so I think that a Colonel rank is also technically acceptable, although Wing Commander is probably more correct. The New Republic uses an extremely convoluted ranking scheme.

EDIT: Isard's starfighter commander was named Colonel Vessery, so perhaps Colonel is the correct rank. :lol

Lilaena De'Ville
May 28th, 2005, 01:25:44 AM
Val and Bette are "Flight" commanders / Wing commanders. <strike>We need two more flight commanders and then</strike> I don't care what the ranks are of the other people. Lieutenants, or whatever.

We needed three flights of four TIE Interceptors each, so I arbitrarily made someone else a wing leader.

Tiberius Anar
May 28th, 2005, 01:56:39 AM
Army rank seems to have been the convention for fighter pilots on both sides in the Civil War. I would say that you are best sticking with that and you'd put the responsibilities as follows:

General- (of varying grades from brigadier to full general) are responsible for different bits and pieces of co-ordination and higher command. e.g. fighter co-ordination for an entire fleet, air defence for a planet etc. Very often subordinate to and General in the Army (when based planetside) or to an Admiral when on a fleet. Don't fly comabat except under special circumstances.

Colonel- commanding a fighter group.
Lt. Colonel- commanding a wing composed of numerous squadrons.

Major- commanding a squadron
Captain- squadron executive officer
Lieutenant- commanding a flight.
Flyin Office- pretty much that. Most junior rank.

Obviously that can vary- prestigious fighter pilots can stay on as squadron commanders despite promotion (eg. Fel). Sometimes specialist squadrons get generals to command them because they are doing tasks of strategic importance.

Hope that helps.

Drin Kizael
May 28th, 2005, 08:22:45 AM
Nine players and 3 NPCs. Heh. Do the last 3 on the squadron wear red flight suits? :lol

Gav Mortis
May 28th, 2005, 08:48:49 AM
By the way, I believe James is up for this, as is Peter.

Charley
May 28th, 2005, 08:51:01 AM
:mad

even teams!

Miranda Tarkin
May 28th, 2005, 09:09:39 AM
can't help that Shadow Squad is so cool :smokin

soon we will need to turn them away!

Lilaena De'Ville
May 28th, 2005, 02:40:25 PM
Originally posted by Gav Mortis
By the way, I believe James is up for this, as is Peter. Does James want to be Shadow Leader again? His insubordinance would be hilarious up against our doormat commanding officer. :D

So... if I'm reading this correctly, our wing leaders (Val, Bette and Sango[?]) are Lieutenants?

Our commanding officer is most properly a Major. Shadow Leader should actually be one of the wing leaders. Am I right with thinking three wings of four TIES each? We could also be split up four of three, or 6 two each.

And we're based out of the ISD II Termagant

Lion El' Jonson
May 28th, 2005, 07:51:38 PM
I think we should just stick with three wings of Four TIES each; given that we're flying unshielded crates, I think that clustering our fighters gives us more capability than if we had them flying around in wingpairs.

Note: I'd be fine being a flight officer, given the relative youth of my character.

Navaria Tarkin
May 28th, 2005, 08:02:46 PM
I thought we're going to be in interceptors? Those are unshielded?

And still, LD and Gav, whatever rank you want to give Aliya is fine by me

XI-20-P
May 28th, 2005, 08:16:41 PM
Goi...


Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
Needless to say, we're going to be in Interceptors with shields. It's be impossible and implausible for us to survive with out them.

Just for clarification :D

Lilaena De'Ville
May 29th, 2005, 12:36:55 AM
Originally posted by Lion El' Jonson
I think we should just stick with three wings of Four TIES each; given that we're flying unshielded crates, I think that clustering our fighters gives us more capability than if we had them flying around in wingpairs.

Note: I'd be fine being a flight officer, given the relative youth of my character. As stated previously we are NOT, I repeat, NOT flying unshielded crates. TIE interceptors, not TIE fighters.

Lion El' Jonson
May 29th, 2005, 01:05:21 AM
Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
As stated previously we are NOT, I repeat, NOT flying unshielded crates. TIE interceptors, not TIE fighters.

Oopsies, didn't see that.

I feel much safer, but I'd note that Rogue Squadron was extremely disdainful of flying shielded interceptors: they were "clumsier than an X-Wing, and just as fragile." On some occasions, energy had to be bled from the guns to keep the shields running. Then again, these also had hyperdrives, so...I'm rambling. Let's stick with shielded interceptors.

Still, we're elite, and I think keeping our squadron alive in exchange for a bit of speed is a nice trade. :lol

Yog
May 29th, 2005, 08:02:23 AM
I would like to point out, the TIE Defender had more speed, more armor plating and shieldgenerator + hyperdrive in default configuration. It even had warhead launchers for proton torpedoes and concussion missiles, something the Interceptors dont have. The only minus was, it had slightly less maneuvrability than the Intercepor, but it could still fly circles around an x-wing (if the pilot is good)..

The TIE Defender had its first prototype made before the Battle of Endor, and due to how expensive it is to manufacture, it was produced in limited numbers, mostly reserved for elite fighter wings. You could say Shadow Squadron very much goes into this category.

The Interceptor on the other hand, were produced in very large numbers after the Battle of Endor. About 20% of the fighter fleet were interceptors post battle of Endor. Although, they were overall far superior to standard TIEs, they were generally not something you would put a fighter ace inside (because of the lack of shields, inferior speed and no missile launching capability, compared to the Defender).

You also have the problem Lion mentioned, that due to their experimental nature, the shield equipped Interceptors had power management problems and non reliable maneuvrability. Not efficient starfighter design at all. But then again, Imperial engineers are not particulary smart.. ;)

Basically, of the Imperial fighters that were produced in significant numbers (and I am referring to the cannon SW ships that we can see in the movies, not experimental projects in the EU) the TIE Defender is by far and away the best. It was designed for engaging and defeating multiple starfighters.

The only fighter I would argue is better (of the cannon ships), is the TIE advanced because it has everything the Defender has, but is much more maneuvrable (150 DFP vs 110). However, those were produced even more limited numbers than the TIE Defender. Keep in mind, in the movies we actually only ever see one TIE advanced, and thats Vaders x1 prototype in ANH. The Defender on the other hand we see at least 3 of right at the start of the Battle of Endor. There might have been more, but I did not count them.

Just for your information :)

Morgan Evanar
May 29th, 2005, 08:29:33 AM
We could just assume SS got a nice batch of TI-Shielded. Even the lunkheads at certain Mexican factories put together a car correctly now and then.

Khendon Sevon
May 29th, 2005, 08:46:10 AM
Originally posted by Master Yoghurt
The Defender on the other hand we see at least 3 of right at the start of the Battle of Endor. There might have been more, but I did not count them.

Just for your information :)

TIE Defenders in the movie? Do you mean TIE Interceptor? I'm kinda' confused. You could be right, it just escapes my memory.

Defender: http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/cg/rebellion/tiedreb.gif
Interceptor: http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/chron/tieint.jpg


Originally posted by Morgan Evanar
We could just assume SS got a nice batch of TI-Shielded. Even the lunkheads at certain Mexican factories put together a car correctly now and then.

Or your technicians could have just hot wired in a new control chip or some other clever thing.

Morgan Evanar
May 29th, 2005, 09:08:11 AM
Yeah, maybe grabbed part of the shielding assembly from a shuttle or something similar.

Tiberius Anar
May 29th, 2005, 10:15:56 AM
Originally posted by Khendon Sevon
TIE Defenders in the movie? Do you mean TIE Interceptor? I'm kinda' confused.

I have joined the confused club as well. But the problem of getting shields can't be that difficult to solve. Either jiggery pokery by your techs or a batch of sheilded TIE Interceptors. Both course are possible.

Bette Davis
May 29th, 2005, 10:36:34 AM
ENOUGH BACK TALKING!:verymad

You are part of the Imperial Navy now! You will jump when I say jump. You will fly where I tell you to, and do what I tell you to, because if you don't you are putting the rest of your squadron in mortal danger!

:mad Val told me we had a bunch of wetnosed mamma's boys recruited to Shadow Squadron, but I didn't believe him. We are the FINEST. BUNCH. OF. FIGHTER PILOTS. IN. THE. EMPIRE! We don't accept mamma's boys.

You're not a mamma's boy, are you? NO? I didn't think so.

We fly TIE Interceptors, Defenders, and occasionally we get to play in the Advanced TIES. That's right, we fly Darth Vader's (may he rest in peace) fighters that he designed and tested himself!

As you may know, Shadow Squadron took come heavy losses during the recent battle. You've been drawn up out of the ranks of the mediocre, and brought here so you can have a chance to taste what it's like to be a LEGEND. If you don't cut the mustard, you'll simply know what it's like to have been AROUND a LEGEND.

We're being sent out on a mop up run through the battlefield. There may be a few surprises left behind byt he Rebels - we're going to trigger the traps and clean up the space so repairs on our GLORIOUS Death Star can commence!

Any questions? I DIDN't THINK SO! Be suited up and in your Interceptors in FIVE!!

DISSSSMISSSSED!!

Lilaena De'Ville
May 29th, 2005, 11:36:06 AM
Shadow Leader - Flight Commander ________ (NPC right now)
Shadow Two - Flight Commander Val "Razor" Torre
Shadow Three -. Flight Commander Bette "Shooter" Davis
Shadow Four - Lieutenant Jill Chambers
Shadow Five - Lieutenant Jason "Outcast" Dreggs
Shadow Six - Colonel Ulrhik "Dragon" Godsend
Shadow Seven - Colonel Sango "Frack" Kariudo
Shadow Eight - Colonel Zachariah "Jackal" Jak'el
Shadow Nine - Captain Aliya "Chipper" Vahlshalynn
Shadow Ten - Lieutenant Vance "Ripper" Emmerick (NPC)
Shadow Eleven -. Lieutenant Raan "Rails" Hapes (NPC)
Shadow Twelve - Colonel Tod "Maniac" Marr (NPC)

Commanding Officer: General Tal "Lucky" Kellison (we can think up a better pet name for you )
Deck Chief/Test pilot: Taijin "Outback" Daece

Shadow Squadron is based out of the ISD II Termagant

Wing 1
Shadow Leader
Shadow Four
Shadow Eleven (NPC)
Shadow Seven

Wing 2
Shadow Two
Shadow Twelve (NPC)
Shadow Five
Shadow Nine

Wing 3
Shadow Three
Shadow Ten (NPC)
Shadow Eight
Shadow Six

Bette Davis
May 29th, 2005, 12:05:44 PM
Pilots, REPORT to the HANGAR BAY!

http://swforums.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38483

Remember, people who haven't RPed in shadow Squadron before are new to the squadron. You were all leaders in your previous squadrons, but now you're down to the bottom of the totem pole again with your advancement to Shadow Squadron.

This RP takes place a few hours after the Battle of Endor. You've been transferred to SS already, to fill the roster, and this is your first 'action.'

Yog
May 29th, 2005, 01:06:05 PM
Originally posted by Khendon Sevon
TIE Defenders in the movie? Do you mean TIE Interceptor? I'm kinda' confused. You could be right, it just escapes my memory.

Yeah, I know how the defender looks like. I did run through ROTJ space battle real quick, and did not see any of those, just a crapload of TIE Interceptors. So maybe its just my memory playing tricks on me. I have not been frame by frame searching or anything though. According to the official SW site databank, "..a handful of these ships were deployed as part of Onyx Squadron during the Battle of Endor". The pics looks like movie set models:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/tiedefender/index.html

:: runs off before Bette Davis pushes him out of the airlock ::

:p

Kale
May 29th, 2005, 02:31:57 PM
Sorry for the late arrival. I spoke with Drew several days ago about entering a Shadow Squadron character, and it's taken me this long to settle on the details. He said I could take one of the NPC spots.

Also, having trouble settling on a callsign for him... if any of you has an idea, feel free to make suggestions.

Lieutenant Tannis V'larr
Age: 26
Species: Sikarran

Lieutenant Tannis V'larr graduated second in his class at the Imperial Flight Academy. His instructors describe his flight style as textbook--he can execute maneuvers with machine-like precision, and he's frugal with his ammunition and fuel.

At first glance, there are few clues that Lieutenant V'larr isn't human. Other than his yellow eyes, most physiological signs of his Sikarran heritage are under the skin--notably, his green, copper-based blood and several redundant organs. However, his flightmates have often said he has the personality of a training drone computer. That may be an unfair comparison, but Tannis spends much of his off-duty hours studying flight specs and tactics and rarely engages in pilot club pleasantries. He's cool, methodical, and by-the-book, interested in his flightmates only so far as he needs to work with them smoothly to get the job done.

Hunk
May 29th, 2005, 09:22:49 PM
I'm still having a little trouble with this rank thing. If my character is in command of an ISD, wouldn't that neccessarily make him part of the Navy? As such, wouldn't his rank be Admiral instead of General?

(Regardless, in this first rp I'll have him a lower rank, then assuming a higher rank, as his commanding officer is killed in the battle)

Bette Davis
May 29th, 2005, 11:33:34 PM
fracking people :|

Let me re-write my first post to fit the senario everyone else has placed into my RP. Thanks a bunch guys. Yes, I know, it's an open thread, but usually people find out what's going on BEFORE they post.

Anbira Hicchoru
May 29th, 2005, 11:36:08 PM
Be more clear next time then.

Ulrhik Godsend
May 29th, 2005, 11:38:12 PM
Wait, what did we do?

Tannis V'larr
May 30th, 2005, 12:14:22 AM
If I've got a go for joining Shadow Squadron, I think I'll wait a little before posting to this thread and introduce Tannis as the leader of another TIE wing already in combat. He can be transferred into SS after the battle to help replenish the Tergament's squadrons. Main thing is I've got a vacation coming after this week, and I don't want to slow things down by jumping in too soon.

Navaria Tarkin
May 30th, 2005, 09:25:52 AM
shadow squad didnt do anything wrong :p

And as for Bette's first post, I think it made it rather clear with the Death Star out of commission, it was -after- the Battle of Endor

Charley
May 30th, 2005, 09:27:50 AM
I'd read it as the Death Star had been crippled, but the battle was still engaged.

Morgan Evanar
May 30th, 2005, 09:37:30 AM
I can seperate the posts out.

Navaria Tarkin
May 30th, 2005, 09:42:06 AM
That would be easier then having Bette edit her post if you two and she agree to it :)

Tiberius Anar
May 30th, 2005, 09:57:38 AM
Just for the sake of clarity, I have asked the Imperial fleet guys to do the capital ship element to Endor in a separate thread. Will arange it with the Rebels too.

Bette Davis
May 30th, 2005, 12:24:10 PM
I posted, dismissing the rebel posts as "echoes" of the battle. You can move them, or not. :)

Morgan Evanar
May 30th, 2005, 12:25:00 PM
-sigh- I'm just going to move them from a seperate thread.

Bette Davis
May 30th, 2005, 12:29:44 PM
Okay. :)

Drin Kizael
May 30th, 2005, 06:16:35 PM
Please change Taijin Daece's callsign to "Nomad". I don't have a sig yet, but I'll be joining you soon. Just want to get an avatar before registering the name.

Again to clarify, his role is recon and support. If he's in a ship as opposed to your base ISD or planetside, I think it'd be a gunboat running tactical at long range with possible cover fire.

Baralai Lotus
May 30th, 2005, 07:19:48 PM
Sorry it's taken me so long, Jill "Stiletto" Chambers reporting for duty!

Tal Kellison
May 30th, 2005, 08:36:21 PM
I decided to lock down Kellison's rank at "Captain" in the Imperial Navy. Since he does seem to be in command of the Termagant, a naval rank seemed far more appropriate than an arny one. And Admiral (as opposed to General), is too high for two reasons:

1. I want to play up his relative inexperience. An Admiral would have, most likely, been promoted only after holding the rank of Captain (and the command of a Star Destroyer) for many years. Also, it's bad enough to put Kellison in command of a single ISD, putting him in charge of an entire fleet would be insane.

2. I've never rped as an Imperial before. I don't want to step on anyone's toes by giving myself too high a rank right out of the gate.

Besides, I think Captain works fine for the situation. He's low enough in the command structure where he could fly under the radar, but he's high enough where he should be able to command some respect from Shadow Squadron (whether or not he gets that respect is an entirely different story).

Adia Issoris
May 30th, 2005, 09:02:28 PM
I'd just like to say that your post was excellent.

Lilaena De'Ville
May 30th, 2005, 11:03:07 PM
The post was excellent.

And I'm still not sure what role you are wanting for Tajin. :huh We're... er... fighter pilots...

Tiberius Anar
May 31st, 2005, 02:36:59 AM
I would like to add my opinion of those posts of Kellison's: most splendid. And the rest of you: meue bueno! I am enjoying this thread immensely.

Bette Davis
May 31st, 2005, 12:33:14 PM
Tannis - great post. :D

I'm waiting for Val to post before I move this forward more. Oh, and the rest of the Shadows too. ^_^;

Taijin Daece
May 31st, 2005, 01:02:00 PM
Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
And I'm still not sure what role you are wanting for Tajin. :huh We're... er... fighter pilots...

I'll serve a similar role as Mirax Terrik in the X-Wing series. I'm one of your support people, like Captain Kellison.

Every military operation needs recon and ground support. Especially when we're talking about a special forces unit like Shadow Squadron, you need dedicated, solid intel.

Taijin is your operations and tactical coordinator, responsible for intel and surface recon. He tells you guys what kind of resistance to expect, runs interference where he can, and basically tells you where to shoot.

Bette Davis
May 31st, 2005, 01:15:53 PM
Ah okay. Makes sense now. :D

Bette Davis
May 31st, 2005, 03:00:08 PM
And a note to all RPers - try to keep posts a little shorter than small novels in the future. We like to Rp the action and character interaction, not War and Peace.

I do understand that when you're RPing a bunch of NPCs it makes posts longer. And I'm not dissing anyone.

*disses everyone!* ;)