NFL Pick 'Em, Week 12

[Figrin D'an]

Week 12 is being put up early because, as is tradition, Detroit and Dallas play host to games on Thanksgiving. Everyone may either make all of their picks before Thursday, or may pick the Thursday games in one post, then have until Sunday to pick the remaining games in a second post. The option is yours.



Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis at Detroit
Chicago at Dallas


Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Kansas City
Jacksonville at Minnesota
Philadelphia at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay at Carolina
Tennessee at Houston


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta
Miami at San Francisco
Buffalo at Seattle
NY Jets at Arizona
Baltimore at New England


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay


Thanksgiving picks are due by 12:30PM Eastern on Thursday. All others are due by 1PM Eastern on Sunday.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

I'll get them all in now, since I don't know when I'll get another chance to do it again.

Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis
Chicago


Sunday, Early

Cincinnati
San Diego
Minnesota
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Carolina
Houston


Sunday, Late

Atlanta
San Francisco
Seattle
NY Jets
New England


Sunday Night

Denver


Monday Night

Green Bay

[Syren Wyssholt]

I'm sure last week as a fluke for me :\


Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis (W) at Detroit
Chicago (W) at Dallas


Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati (W)
San Diego (W) at Kansas City
Jacksonville at Minnesota (W)
Philadelphia (W) at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh (W)
Tampa Bay (W) at Carolina
Tennessee at Houston (W)


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta (W)
Miami at San Francisco (W)
Buffalo at Seattle (W)
NY Jets (W) at Arizona
Baltimore at New England (W)


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver (W)


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay (W)

[Ryan Pode]

Ricky Williams may be coming back... soon.

[Figrin D'an]

Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis (W) at Detroit
Chicago at Dallas (W)


Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati (W)
San Diego (W) at Kansas City
Jacksonville at Minnesota (W)
Philadelphia (W) at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh (W)
Tampa Bay (W) at Carolina
Tennessee at Houston (W)


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta (W)
Miami at San Francisco (W)
Buffalo at Seattle (W)
NY Jets (W) at Arizona
Baltimore at New England (W)


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver (W)


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay (W)

[Jedieb]

Thanksgiving Day
Indianapolis
Dallas

I'll make the rest of my picks later in the week.

[Jedi Master Carr]

W Indianapolis at Detroit
Chicago at Dallas W


Sunday, Early

W Cleveland at Cincinnati
San Diego at Kansas City W
Jacksonville at Minnesota W
W Philadelphia at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh W
Tampa Bay at Carolina W
Tennessee at Houston W


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta W
w Miami at San Francisco (oh my the battle for the first pick :p)
Buffalo at Seattle w
w NY Jets at Arizona
Baltimore at New England w


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver w


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay w

[jjwr]

Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis(W) at Detroit
Chicago at Dallas(W)

Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati(W)
San Diego at Kansas City(W)
Jacksonville at Minnesota(W)
Philadelphia(W) at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh(W)
Tampa Bay(W) at Carolina
Tennessee at Houston(W)

Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta(W)
Miami at San Francisco(W)
Buffalo(W) at Seattle
NY Jets(W) at Arizona
Baltimore at New England(W)

Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver(W)

Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay(W)

[Cyrel Annat]

Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis (W) at Detroit
Chicago at Dallas (W)


Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati (W)
San Diego (W) at Kansas City
Jacksonville at Minnesota (W)
Philadelphia (W) at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh (W)
Tampa Bay (W) at Carolina
Tennessee at Houston (W)


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta (W)
Miami at San Francisco (W)
Buffalo at Seattle (W)
NY Jets at Arizona (W)
Baltimore at New England (W)


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver (W)


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay (W)

[Yog]

Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis (W) at Detroit
Chicago (W) at Dallas

Rest of the picks will be posted later in the week

[JMK]

Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis (w) at Detroit
Chicago at Dallas (w)


Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati (w)
San Diego (w) at Kansas City
Jacksonville at Minnesota (w)
Philadelphia (w) at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh (w)
Tampa Bay at Carolina (w)
Tennessee at Houston (w)


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta (w)
Miami at San Francisco (w)
Buffalo at Seattle (w)
NY Jets (w) at Arizona
Baltimore at New England (w)


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver (w)


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay (w)

[Ryan Pode]

Thanksgiving Day

Indianapolis Win at Detroit
Chicago at Dallas Win


Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati Win
San Diego Win at Kansas City
Jacksonville at Minnesota Win
Philadelphia Win at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh Win
Tampa Bay Win at Carolina
Tennessee Win at Houston


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta Win
Miami Win at San Francisco
Buffalo at Seattle Win
NY Jets Win at Arizona
Baltimore Win at New England


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver Win


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay Win

[JMK]

Marino's record is as good as done. Manning has 3 more TD passes in the first half vs Detroit, all to Brandon Stokely. These guys are simply disgusting to watch, and by disgusting I mean amazing.

[Yog]

And another TD! 4 TDs for Manning at half time!

[Cyrel Annat]

6 TDs on the day, which brings his total up to 41 against 7 INTs with 5 games left. He can break the record left-handed now. And as a fantasy player, I do so love the way that the ball is NOT spread to all receivers. Edgerrin was the packhorse to move the ball so the TDs could be scored by Harrison and Stokley. Thankfully, the guy I'm playing this week benched Stokley so only him playing Harrison can kick my butt around. I'd be done as dinner if he started Stokley, too.

[Yog]

Peyton could have had more TDs too if they did not let him rest in the 4th quarter, putting in J. Sorgi. It all slowed down after that move. Basically, it was 6 TDs in 3 quarters, amazing. I have the feeling he would have scored 8 if they let him go on.

[JMK]

Another humiliating loss at the hands of the Colts. With all the hype surrounding this team, they had better win the AFC or they will never hear the end of it.

[Yog]

Does anyone here have enough morbid curiosity to watch the Chicago/Dallas game? Do yourself a favor and run.. RUN FAR FAR AWAY! Its just punt.. punt.. punt. Its not even good defense, just terrible offense on both sides. The torturing snooze fest is reaching stratospheric levels, so much that I am puzzled how I managed to stay awake for so long. If you dont hear from me for the remainder of the night, its because I fell asleep.

[JMK]

I actually did fall asleep. :\

[Jedi Master Carr]

lol me too. Too boring games actually. About the Colts, they will make the playoff, but with their defense there is no way they can beat either New England or Pittsburg. I don't see them going very deep.

[Ryan Pode]

The Bears/Cowboy's game got interesting once Vinny Testeverde was put in.

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Carr
lol me too. Too boring games actually. About the Colts, they will make the playoff, but with their defense there is no way they can beat either New England or Pittsburg. I don't see them going very deep.

They can if Manning stays on fire, like he is right now. He's the key to the Colts success in the postseason. If he keeps up his current level of play for the rest of the season, they can win in January. But, if he has an off game once the playoffs start, they'll be done for. In that respect, he has yet another parallel to Marino, in that his team's chances completely hinge upon his play.

That said... I do agree that Pittsburg and New England look like favorites to play for the AFC title.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I don't know New England really shut him down last year. The Colts defense is irratic much like KC's last year. And since they will not have home field. I can't see them going into Pittsburg or New England and winning.

[Ryan Pode]

I personally think the Colts will need to pray that New England and Pittsburgh drop a few more. The only way they will go deep into the playoffs will be at home.

[Sarr Koon]

Cleveland at Cincinnati (W)
San Diego (W) at Kansas City
Jacksonville (W) at Minnesota
Philadelphia (W) at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh (W)
Tampa Bay (W) at Carolina
Tennessee at Houston (W)

New Orleans at Atlanta (W)
Miami (W) at San Francisco
Buffalo at Seattle (W)
NY Jets (W) at Arizona
Baltimore at New England (W)

Oakland at Denver (W)

St. Louis at Green Bay (W) sixth win a row coming right up

[JMK]

Originally posted by Ryan Pode
I personally think the Colts will need to pray that New England and Pittsburgh drop a few more. The only way they will go deep into the playoffs will be at home.

Agreed. If the Colts have to play a cold outdoor game in January, I seriously doubt their chances.

[Ryan Pode]

And New England and Pitt's schedules are pretty easy from here on out with Pitt having a game against Jacksonville away and New England playing the Jet's away. They both play Baltimore at home tho...

[jjwr]

Pats got a huge break with Lewis being out. Their run defense hasn't been great lately so with Lewis out they can focus more on Boller. If the game was at the Ravens I would be more worried but at Foxboro without Lewis the Pats should win it.

Looking at all their remaining games the Pats should win out, doesn't mean they will but they should.

[Jedieb]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati
San Diego
Minnesota
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Houston


Sunday, Late

Atlanta
San Francisco
Seattle
NY Jets
New England


Sunday Night

Denver


Monday Night

Green Bay

[Jedieb]

As good as Manning has been, the Steelers and Pats are so strong that it's going to take a perfect game for the Colts to get past either one of them in the playoffs. Odds are, they'd have to beat BOTH of those teams on the road to make it to the Superbowl. I just can't see how Manning and company can get past both those defenses in January. Last year Manning was playing just as well as he is now in the playoffs. Then the Colts went to NE and the Pats defense mugged the Colts receivers up and down the field, the refs swallowed their whistles, and that threw the timing of the entire offense off. Even if the game is called tighter this year. I can't see how the Colts can beat two 15-1 or 14-2 teams. Manning is going to have a memorable season, but I just can't see how it's going to end in the Superbowl.

[Yog]

Sunday, Early

Cleveland at Cincinnati (W)
San Diego at Kansas City (W)
Jacksonville at Minnesota (W)
Philadelphia (W) at NY Giants
Washington at Pittsburgh (W)
Tampa Bay at Carolina (W)
Tennessee at Houston (W)


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Atlanta (W)
Miami (W) at San Francisco
Buffalo at Seattle (W)
NY Jets at Arizona (W)
Baltimore at New England (W)


Sunday Night

Oakland at Denver (W)


Monday Night

St. Louis at Green Bay (W)

[JMK]

Could someone please explain to me what the hell is going on in Cincinnati?

[Yog]

Well, apparently it is tied for the highest score ever. I like the fact Bengals won :)

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by JMK
Could someone please explain to me what the hell is going on in Cincinnati?

The defensive units ate too much turkey over Thanksgiving and were half asleep during the game.

[Ryan Pode]

Tied at 3. Whoo.

[JMK]

What a mess in Foxboro! In more ways than one, the Ravens looked terrible. Poor Boller probably wishes he was a bowler today.

[Jedieb]

The Ravens had less than 30 yds of offense in the second half and only 3 first downs. They're good, but they're a second tier AFC team right now behind the Pats and Steelers.

In other news, Martin Gramatica was found beaten and stomped on board the Bucs team plane. Tampa police could find no witnesses to the beating. FRIGGIN' GRAMATICA! He missed all 3 of his FG attempts today (I could care less that one of them was blocked) and has missed 7 of his last 9. Way to blow the game putz. I hope he's making moving plans because he won't be kicking in Tampa Bay next year. :cry

[JMK]

And in other news, the Mighty Dolphins defeat the Niners in a titanic struggle....of futility.

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Jedieb
In other news, Martin Gramatica was found beaten and stomped on board the Bucs team plane. Tampa police could find no witnesses to the beating. FRIGGIN' GRAMATICA! He missed all 3 of his FG attempts today (I could care less that one of them was blocked) and has missed 7 of his last 9. Way to blow the game putz. I hope he's making moving plans because he won't be kicking in Tampa Bay next year. :cry

Makes you wonder what has happened to the guy. A few years ago, he was considered among the best kickers in the league. Now, he looks like he couldn't hit field goal if the uprights were twice as a far apart. I agree with you, though... his days in Tampa are over. He'll get another chance somewhere else, but if he continues to have issues, his career will probably be over.

[jjwr]

Whoo Pats rule! I still say they're the best team in the league. It took them missing 2 or 3 of their best players and a bad day all around for the Steelers to beat them, if they meet again you can be sure Belechick won't be beat twice.

As for the Colts, a lot of fun to watch but like someone said above the odds of them beating both NE and Pittsburgh on the road is too much. The Pats have the better offense so I would give them the nod over the Steelers, as a whole their offense isn't great and if the Colts scored a few early TD's on them then Big Ben may have trouble throwing them back into the game.

As for the Ravens....ouch, they got man-handled. Boller has been great the past few weeks but his lack of a running game and a good receiving threat killed him, after watching what the Pats did to him in the 4th quarter I definetly feel for the guy.

Dolphins...when a win is really a loss, now the 49ers are en route to the #1 pick!

How bout them Bills? Playing some very good football now, seeing McGahee run makes me wish the Pats took a chance on him last year and just let him sit.

[JMK]

I agree. I still think the Pats are easily the best team in the NFL, even though they have matching records with 2 other teams. They just do everything so well, always just enough to win.

As far as the Dolphins winning, yeah, it was sort of a loss. But I don't mind taking the number 2 guy because if Miami had #1, they would definetly blow it on a dud like the Chargers did with Leaf. At least now they have an excuse; 'well our #1 pick sucks because we didn't get our guy, he went #1 overall.' :p

I fully expect the Steelers and Colts to fold down the stretch, especially the Colts in the playoffs. Once Big Ben loses a game, it will be very interesting to see how he responds to it. A big part of winning is knowing how to come back from defeat, and with a rookie QB it may be difficult at that time of the year.

I think in the pitiful NFC, the Eagles will choke in the NFC title game to the Pack. Just a gut feeling.

[Figrin D'an]

Week 12 Results

Nathanial K'cansce: 12-4
Syren Wyssholt: 11-5
Figrin D'an: 12-4
Jedieb: 12-4
Jedi Master Carr: 12-4
jjwr: 13-3
Cyrel Annat: 11-5
Yoghurt: 11-5
JMK: 13-3
Ryan Pode: 11-5
Sarr Koon: 10-4 (no Thursday picks)



Updated Season Totals

Yoghurt: 117-59
Nathanial K'cansce: 115-61
jjwr: 114-62
Cyrel Annat: 114-63
Jedieb: 113-63
Figrin D'an: 107-70
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Syren Wyssholt: 105-71
Jedi Master Carr: 100-62
JMK: 93-70
Ryan Pode: 91-69
Darth McBain: 78-68
Lilaena De'Ville: 64-53
Sarr Koon: 31-13
Darth Sauron: 11-5
Reaperfett: 11-5
Lucian Belial: 11-3

[jjwr]

Standings should read...

Updated Season Totals

Yoghurt: 117-59
Nathanial K'cansce: 115-61
Cyrel Annat: 114-63
jjwr: 114-62
Jedieb: 113-63
Figrin D'an: 107-70

Not a big deal :) 3 Games out and 5 weeks to go!

[Drake Shadowstalker]

Sarr Koon and Drake Shadowstalker are the same person. Could you combine those 2 scores?

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Drake Shadowstalker
Sarr Koon and Drake Shadowstalker are the same person. Could you combine those 2 scores?

In the future, please only pick with one user name.

[Sarr Koon]

I apologize for that.